1.7 cdti won't t start astra

1.7 cdti won't t start astra

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lorrigirl29

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9 posts

98 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Hi iv got a 05 astra 1.7cdti eco tec to be fair it's been sat on my drive for a year never been on the road but I did start it every month it's been a hel of a engine never battered a eye lid I usually leave it half hour just ticking over last time it was ticking over say 15 min and just stopped dead and won't start it won't even fire one bit will turn over fine iv changed the filter in the housing it was only quarter full after I put new filter in it filled back up iv even put more deasel in just in case but nothing won't fire any ideas ...

Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Blockage in fuel line, grasping at straws of course.




smile

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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lorrigirl29 said:
Hi iv got a 05 astra 1.7cdti eco tec to be fair it's been sat on my drive for a year never been on the road but I did start it every month it's been a hel of a engine never battered a eye lid I usually leave it half hour just ticking over last time it was ticking over say 15 min and just stopped dead and won't start it won't even fire one bit will turn over fine iv changed the filter in the housing it was only quarter full after I put new filter in it filled back up iv even put more deasel in just in case but nothing won't fire any ideas ...
Are you saying it would not start after you changed the filter ? or before ?

And you are referring to the fuel filter ?

If so, really you will need to fill the filter housing right up before securing the lid again, and make sure the o-ring etc are all sealed correctly.

Presumably the key/alarm etc is working correctly ? Is the immobiliser light lit or off ?

bungz

1,960 posts

120 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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as I read it you came to the filter and it had air in it?

Sounds like fuel isn't making its way into the filter, pump working?

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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bungz said:
as I read it you came to the filter and it had air in it?

Sounds like fuel isn't making its way into the filter, pump working?
These cars do not have a pump from tank to filter/engine. Only the mechanical pump on the engine.

bungz

1,960 posts

120 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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stevieturbo said:
These cars do not have a pump from tank to filter/engine. Only the mechanical pump on the engine.
Air leak then yes

Does that make priming these once you have air in a pain?

I had a old Vectra Di that was a bugger to get going after the leak off valves went, easy start used to help it along to pull the fuel through but I know that's prob frowned on!

Edited by bungz on Friday 19th February 11:45

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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bungz said:
Air leak then yes

Does that make priming these once you have air in a pain?

I had a old Vectra Di that was a bugger to get going after the leak off valves went, easy start used to help it along to pull the fuel through but I know that's prob frowned on!

Edited by bungz on Friday 19th February 11:45
It could be, and yes priming can be a bks.

eg if you did a filter change and do not fully fill the filter housing with diesel first.....you could easily be cranking for several minutes before it'll draw through enough to start. And neither the battery or starter motor will be very happy with you lol Or perhaps the main diesel pump either !

tapkaJohnD

1,941 posts

204 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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Given the info so far....that would probably be a waste of money

chevy55

8,248 posts

236 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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Has it got any diesel in the tank?

DCallaghan91

1 posts

87 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Sorry to be bringing this post back up, completely new to this and a bit clueless but it's the most similar post I can find.

I have a 56 Astra 1.7 SRi. I've had it since last May and it's not caused a problem, then on Monday morning I went to turn it on and it took a while for the engine to start, had to press the accelerator to get it going, thought it was odd, then got round the corner and the ABS and TC lights came on and the steering became stiff and difficult. Turned engine off and tried to restart it but it wouldn't. Took it the garage Tuesday and they changed the battery, seemed to have worked, until just now the same thing has happened! Turned on fine this time, then driving along and the radio started going on and off, then the lights inside went off along with the steering! Lights outside the car still on though? Turned it off and tried to restart but it won't even attempt it now, just makes a click noise three times then stops doing anything? Does anyone have any ideas? Would be much appreciated!!

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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DCallaghan91 said:
Sorry to be bringing this post back up, completely new to this and a bit clueless but it's the most similar post I can find.

I have a 56 Astra 1.7 SRi. I've had it since last May and it's not caused a problem, then on Monday morning I went to turn it on and it took a while for the engine to start, had to press the accelerator to get it going, thought it was odd, then got round the corner and the ABS and TC lights came on and the steering became stiff and difficult. Turned engine off and tried to restart it but it wouldn't. Took it the garage Tuesday and they changed the battery, seemed to have worked, until just now the same thing has happened! Turned on fine this time, then driving along and the radio started going on and off, then the lights inside went off along with the steering! Lights outside the car still on though? Turned it off and tried to restart but it won't even attempt it now, just makes a click noise three times then stops doing anything? Does anyone have any ideas? Would be much appreciated!!
Alternator is cooked - the battery change allowed it to run on a fully charged battery for a while, until it depleted the new battery. Classic description of an alternator failure. (IMO)

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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As above, alternator probably screwed.

The light should be on to indicate it is not charging....sadly that doesnt always happen though as I found out myself one day.

Silly Vauxhalls....although I never got the point of being broken down

S0 What

3,358 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Had the same last week with an 07 plate cdti, no ign light on but the alt was goosed, get a meter on the battery (after jump starting it) and i bet it's below 12V, i put a fresh battery on the one i had to get it 3 miles to the yard and even with a fresh battery the P/S went as i got to the yard, usually the dash lights go, then the P/S then the engine but the rear lights stay on i assume as a safety messure ? these thinge take a huge amount of power just to run !

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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S0 What said:
Had the same last week with an 07 plate cdti, no ign light on but the alt was goosed, get a meter on the battery (after jump starting it) and i bet it's below 12V, i put a fresh battery on the one i had to get it 3 miles to the yard and even with a fresh battery the P/S went as i got to the yard, usually the dash lights go, then the P/S then the engine but the rear lights stay on i assume as a safety messure ? these thinge take a huge amount of power just to run !
I'd probably driven around 70-80 miles before realising the alternator on my combo van had failed. First thing I noticed was a high idle in traffic...
Thought it very odd....started investigating, then realised batter was down to around 11.5v

Rather annoying when I had around 150 miles still to go ! lol

Still managed to make it back ok.

The next time it failed I was half way down through england so I was about 400 miles from home....and it started raining...forcing wipers and lights !
That time it was intermittent fortunately...no charge for maybe 45mins, then charge for 10 or so...repeat. Again it got me home ok. Although that time at least the light was coming on to alert of the problem. The other time it failed it did not.

Sardonicus

18,960 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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stevieturbo said:
As above, alternator probably screwed.

The light should be on to indicate it is not charging....sadly that doesnt always happen though as I found out myself one day.

Silly Vauxhalls....although I never got the point of being broken down
yes A common and well documented problem on these engines not alway illuminating the charge light initially either frown but I would of thought they would have checked the alt output when they changed the battery surely scratchchin

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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Sardonicus said:
yes A common and well documented problem on these engines not alway illuminating the charge light initially either frown but I would of thought they would have checked the alt output when they changed the battery surely scratchchin
You'd think so....but a lot can depend on what the customer has requested.

If they just rolled up and said fit a new battery....would there be much reason to test ? Although you'd suspect that scenario would be rare and they might ask the question....why do you need a new battery ? lol



Sardonicus

18,960 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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stevieturbo said:
You'd think so....but a lot can depend on what the customer has requested.

If they just rolled up and said fit a new battery....would there be much reason to test ? Although you'd suspect that scenario would be rare and they might ask the question....why do you need a new battery ? lol
Agreed hehe

ZaffyGsi17

7 posts

87 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Hi, is there anyone still here on this post? lol.. Was it the alternator? we have a 1.7 cdti astra h at the moment which is having the same issues, will not crank at all anymore, last couple of times it did start, it cut out within about 10 mins and then wouldn't do anything. All lights, central locking etc work but just nothing? have replaced map sensor and bought a new battery which made no difference at all. help please biggrin p.s it wont let me read the ecu although all fuses etc are fine and my immobiliser light stays on

Edited by ZaffyGsi17 on Sunday 29th January 12:45

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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ZaffyGsi17 said:
Hi, is there anyone still here on this post? lol.. Was it the alternator? we have a 1.7 cdti astra h at the moment which is having the same issues, will not crank at all anymore, last couple of times it did start, it cut out within about 10 mins and then wouldn't do anything. All lights, central locking etc work but just nothing? have replaced map sensor and bought a new battery which made no difference at all. help please biggrin p.s it wont let me read the ecu although all fuses etc are fine and my immobiliser light stays on

Edited by ZaffyGsi17 on Sunday 29th January 12:45
Describe the history of the problem properly.

Why did you replace the map sensor ? That's a bit random.

And what is "it" ? that you want to read the ecu with ? And are you using a proper scan tool that is known to work or some egay junk ?

And if you thought the battery may be suspect...why not just test it instead of replacing ?