Vintage Air gen 2 heater
Discussion
Anyone fitted a vintage air gen 2 heater to an LS3 (2010 vintage)? I've installed one to mine but I'm finding that the engine overheats. I've just isolated the heater hoses and plugged the water pump outlet as per pre-installation and the overheating has gone away.
I've seen some notes on back pressure for the internal bypass valve but nothing specific. Also, people who 'live near hills rather than somewhere flat' can get overheating issues.
Anyone had this problem? I'd have thought the valve that comes with the kit should sort the back pressure but its not. Maybe its bad? Will explore more options tomorrow...
I've seen some notes on back pressure for the internal bypass valve but nothing specific. Also, people who 'live near hills rather than somewhere flat' can get overheating issues.
Anyone had this problem? I'd have thought the valve that comes with the kit should sort the back pressure but its not. Maybe its bad? Will explore more options tomorrow...
fatbutt said:
Anyone fitted a vintage air gen 2 heater to an LS3 (2010 vintage)? I've installed one to mine but I'm finding that the engine overheats. I've just isolated the heater hoses and plugged the water pump outlet as per pre-installation and the overheating has gone away.
I've seen some notes on back pressure for the internal bypass valve but nothing specific. Also, people who 'live near hills rather than somewhere flat' can get overheating issues.
Anyone had this problem? I'd have thought the valve that comes with the kit should sort the back pressure but its not. Maybe its bad? Will explore more options tomorrow...
And what exactly is a "vintage air gen 2 heater" ?I've seen some notes on back pressure for the internal bypass valve but nothing specific. Also, people who 'live near hills rather than somewhere flat' can get overheating issues.
Anyone had this problem? I'd have thought the valve that comes with the kit should sort the back pressure but its not. Maybe its bad? Will explore more options tomorrow...
fatbutt said:
....b) Why come onto a thread that asks for advice on an item (clearly stated in the title) that you know nothing about?
Primarily because he is a helpful guy trying to understand your problem.Second he is probably struggling to understand how the fitting of a heater could cause overheating unless of course it is not overheating but that you have simply failed to get rid of the airlock in the heater.
Finally, if you respond the way you did I suspect you will be largely on your own with this problem.
Steve
Steve_D said:
fatbutt said:
....b) Why come onto a thread that asks for advice on an item (clearly stated in the title) that you know nothing about?
Primarily because he is a helpful guy trying to understand your problem.Second he is probably struggling to understand how the fitting of a heater could cause overheating unless of course it is not overheating but that you have simply failed to get rid of the airlock in the heater.
Finally, if you respond the way you did I suspect you will be largely on your own with this problem.
Steve
No problem, I'll sort it myself.
I too know nothing about them, but, had I seen your original post before him I too would have asked what it was & suggested that if it is as it sounds that you check for the obvious air lock first.
Just because we may not know the name of something does not mean we couldn't possibly come up with what could be useful suggestions.
Just because we may not know the name of something does not mean we couldn't possibly come up with what could be useful suggestions.
fatbutt said:
Vintage air gen 2's or other systems are very common to people mod'ding LS3, I had hoped someone here would know of them. I don't understand why someone comes onto a thread about a specific component without knowing anything about it, then asks what it is without first looking at google.
No problem, I'll sort it myself.
Really ? I've been using LS engines of various kinds for 14 years and never heard of it.No problem, I'll sort it myself.
And with such a dumb reply...perhaps you suggest the person asking googles how to fit whatever it is he is fitting, as clearly by your reckoning google has all the answers ?
And equally you come into the thread with absolutely nothing helpful and a plain stupid post....so what is your excuse ?
Come on Steves, that’s not fair. I’m with fatbutt on this. It’s a signal to noise issue and many posts on here (including this) add little to the conversation. With copy / paste from the title, it took just under 2 secs to find this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vintage+air+gen+...
So what “exactly” is the problem? It’s better to get informed before entering a conversation. As the saying goes – if you can’t say anything useful, say nowt.
I’ve only been working with LS engines in the UK for one year but I know that Vintage Air is the default retrofit aircon / heater provider in the US. It may be integrated with the Infinitybox canbus system (Google it) and comes as standard in many American kit cars (Google RCR and Factory Five). So why such a snotty response to a proper query?
If the car is mid-engined it may be worth ditching the heavy LS water manifold and pump. Instead, use a simple tube manifold or block adapters with an electric pump mounted up front near the radiator. Pump from the radiator outlet to the cool engine inlet. Then the heater may be tee’d off the front hoses and the back-pressure problem avoided.
So what “exactly” is the problem? It’s better to get informed before entering a conversation. As the saying goes – if you can’t say anything useful, say nowt.
I’ve only been working with LS engines in the UK for one year but I know that Vintage Air is the default retrofit aircon / heater provider in the US. It may be integrated with the Infinitybox canbus system (Google it) and comes as standard in many American kit cars (Google RCR and Factory Five). So why such a snotty response to a proper query?
If the car is mid-engined it may be worth ditching the heavy LS water manifold and pump. Instead, use a simple tube manifold or block adapters with an electric pump mounted up front near the radiator. Pump from the radiator outlet to the cool engine inlet. Then the heater may be tee’d off the front hoses and the back-pressure problem avoided.
JohnMcL said:
Come on Steves, that’s not fair. I’m with fatbutt on this. It’s a signal to noise issue and many posts on here (including this) add little to the conversation. With copy / paste from the title, it took just under 2 secs to find this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vintage+air+gen+...
So what “exactly” is the problem? It’s better to get informed before entering a conversation. As the saying goes – if you can’t say anything useful, say nowt.
I’ve only been working with LS engines in the UK for one year but I know that Vintage Air is the default retrofit aircon / heater provider in the US. It may be integrated with the Infinitybox canbus system (Google it) and comes as standard in many American kit cars (Google RCR and Factory Five). So why such a snotty response to a proper query?
If the car is mid-engined it may be worth ditching the heavy LS water manifold and pump. Instead, use a simple tube manifold or block adapters with an electric pump mounted up front near the radiator. Pump from the radiator outlet to the cool engine inlet. Then the heater may be tee’d off the front hoses and the back-pressure problem avoided.
I know perfectly well what a Vintage air system is so did not need to Google it.So what “exactly” is the problem? It’s better to get informed before entering a conversation. As the saying goes – if you can’t say anything useful, say nowt.
I’ve only been working with LS engines in the UK for one year but I know that Vintage Air is the default retrofit aircon / heater provider in the US. It may be integrated with the Infinitybox canbus system (Google it) and comes as standard in many American kit cars (Google RCR and Factory Five). So why such a snotty response to a proper query?
If the car is mid-engined it may be worth ditching the heavy LS water manifold and pump. Instead, use a simple tube manifold or block adapters with an electric pump mounted up front near the radiator. Pump from the radiator outlet to the cool engine inlet. Then the heater may be tee’d off the front hoses and the back-pressure problem avoided.
From the OPs profile I assumed it was going into his Rolls Royce so front engine and a fairly straight forward install.
On that basis I could not understand how a heater could cause the engine to overheat unless it was actually an air lock.
From your post am I to assume that the engine will not be using its standard water pump and heater supply and return pipes? If so then perhaps that is where the problem lies.
Steve
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