Ageing tyres

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gtidreamer

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176 posts

116 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Manufactured early 2011, loads of tread but starting to crack within the main tread, but not sidewalls. Is it time to replace?

HustleRussell

24,738 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Not a cause for immediate concern IMO, replace at your leisure.

Cue the alarmists...

gtidreamer

Original Poster:

176 posts

116 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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So far so good...

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Not sure about your "loads of tread" bit.

Looks like you're on the wear bands,albeit probably about 3mm left.

Derek Smith

45,742 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Cracking on tyres, be it on sidewalls or, as here, around the tread, is a sign, and a clear one, that the tyre is tired. At the moment it is legal - there are depths and lengths for MoTs.

One thing to remember is that modern braking systems put massive stresses on tyres. Cracks around the tread is not something that I'd be happy with. But you take your choice.

Tyres do have a life expectancy measured in years. I've heard five years mentioned. That's premium policy but these are tyres and quite important to a car.

Your choice.




Muddle238

3,909 posts

114 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I have also heard 5 years mentioned. Often people are aware of the 1.6mm legal limit (which I think is too low, mine get changed at 3mm) but don't seem to be aware of the effect of ageing of the rubber. After all, rubber is a perishable material, same goes for wiper blades - I used to live in Phoenix (sthole) where it rarely rained but the wiper blades were all perished because the sun and UV would degrade the rubber.

kambites

67,602 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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It's relatively rare for age related failures to hit the tread like that; the primary cause of rubber degradation is exposure to UV and the tread is generally far better shielded from the sun than the side-walls. Tyres kept in optimal conditions can last decades with no significant perishing.

I suppose the answer ultimately comes down to how risk averse you are - I'd say those tyres are 99% likely to be fine for another few years; the question is whether a 1% risk fo a blow-out is acceptable to you. If the cracks had started to bridge the gaps between thread-blocks I'd be straight off to the tyre shop and as they are... it's probably OK.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 28th March 20:29

ging84

8,923 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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They are not going to fail, and they are have a fair amount of legal life left in them, but they are winter tyres so have much deeper tread and they are actually completely worn out.

I would replace them

caelite

4,277 posts

113 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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You'll be fine, probably won't even notice them behind the wheel. Or they might kill you and everyone you love. Depends who you ask. smile

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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6 years use is the recommended maximum. I'd be on my way to replacing those, they'll be st coming into the summer anyway when it's warm and wet.

texaxile

3,294 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Muddle238 said:
I have also heard 5 years mentioned. Often people are aware of the 1.6mm legal limit (which I think is too low, mine get changed at 3mm) but don't seem to be aware of the effect of ageing of the rubber. After all, rubber is a perishable material, same goes for wiper blades - I used to live in Phoenix (sthole) where it rarely rained but the wiper blades were all perished because the sun and UV would degrade the rubber.
I might be wrong but wiper blades now come with a small Yellow warning triangle with an "!" inside which appears when the wiper has been exposed to too much UV and the rubber is degraded.

As for the tyres, when the sidewalls start to crack I change them regardless of the tread condition, but admit I've not noticed cracking within the main tread area before, then again it's not something I tend to look for (lesson learned today then).

gtidreamer

Original Poster:

176 posts

116 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Thanks folks. I'll go with keeping an eye on them and changing at leisure.

For those interested they are vredestein all season tyres and used on a honda jazz which is solely an urban runabout never really going more than 10miles from home. I'm not sure the last time it went above 40mph so catastrophic failure is probably much less likely than getting a screwdriver or bolt through any new tyres I'll buy in due course.

GOG440

9,247 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I have just replaced the rear tyres on my TVR.
They were legal (passed an mot 3 weeks ago) but had I noticed last year that I had massively less grip than they used to, When I had a proper look I noticed that they were dated 2002! At least they are cheap, the upside of running a nearly 30 yr old tvr is that a pair of decent tyres only cost me £113 fitted smile

Muddle238

3,909 posts

114 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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texaxile said:
I might be wrong but wiper blades now come with a small Yellow warning triangle with an "!" inside which appears when the wiper has been exposed to too much UV and the rubber is degraded.

As for the tyres, when the sidewalls start to crack I change them regardless of the tread condition, but admit I've not noticed cracking within the main tread area before, then again it's not something I tend to look for (lesson learned today then).
Interesting, that rings a faint bell somewhere in the depths of my noggin, don't think I've ever actually seen it though. paperbag

gtidreamer

Original Poster:

176 posts

116 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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GOG440 said:
I have just replaced the rear tyres on my TVR.
They were legal (passed an mot 3 weeks ago) but had I noticed last year that I had massively less grip than they used to, When I had a proper look I noticed that they were dated 2002! At least they are cheap, the upside of running a nearly 30 yr old tvr is that a pair of decent tyres only cost me £113 fitted smile
Who says size doesn't matter...

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Tyres should be replaced when five years old - according to the Association of Tyre Manufacturers and Retailers....

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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I'm guessing from the tread that they are winter tyres. Have they be run year-round and overheated?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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having had a blow out at 70mph on a sweeping bend i am not a cheapskate on tyres. cracks, bubbles etc i replace per axle (don't let them get that bad just if bought on the car).
considering how cheap tyres are i wouldn't want cracked 6 year old tyres on my car, there are people that say don't bother but as this is a car forum and not moneysaving skinflints.com i don't understand why you would.