What Engine for 500BHP

What Engine for 500BHP

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turbonutter

Original Poster:

496 posts

207 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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Hi I am looking for an engine to put in a Lancia Stratos Replica.
Needs to be light, so all alloy
with transverse (FWD) Gearbox
Also i am looking to be able to tune it to 500BHP for road use.

Any ideas suggestions apreciate

Thanks

Neil

JonRB

74,391 posts

271 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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turbonutter said:
Also i am looking to be able to tune it to 500BHP for road use.

yikes That's going to be a bit of a handful! eek

eliot

11,361 posts

253 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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JonRB said:
yikes That's going to be a bit of a handful! eek

Well it is a stratos replica - might as well be true to the original.

turbonutter

Original Poster:

496 posts

207 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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JonRB said:
turbonutter said:
Also i am looking to be able to tune it to 500BHP for road use.

yikes That's going to be a bit of a handful! eek


Should be ok, I had one with 400-450BHP 6 years ago. Unfortunately that was destroyed by fire!

LewisK

60 posts

230 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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A Rover T16 will do 500BHP with new internals. I'm not sure how long it'd last though.

Same again, one of my Engine Managment books features a 2.0 Zetec putting out 600BHP when turbocharged....

What about a Volvo engine, lots of those turbo/or are turbocharged very well.....

Jwb

332 posts

237 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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You should look at some of the modern alloy V6`s (keep it true to the original) and slap on a Lysholm screw compressor...........

Sorry I have not got any particular recommendations.

evov11

11 posts

208 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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Hey what about a mitsubishi evo4G63T lump they can be tuned to well over 500bhp.

eliot

11,361 posts

253 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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sorry but 2L kicking out massive BHP just doesn't float my boat - Lag central and probably achieved on race fuel anyway. Ally v6 would be good.

evov11

11 posts

208 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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you can get 500 with sul. but if u run them on race fuel with a 2.3 stroker kit you can push 800bhp+ now that has a bit of lag but fun on 1/4 mile runs.

turbonutter

Original Poster:

496 posts

207 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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eliot said:
sorry but 2L kicking out massive BHP just doesn't float my boat - Lag central and probably achieved on race fuel anyway. Ally v6 would be good.


I Agree I think a V6 Would be the best either Blown or Turbo'd

Just a question of which is easiest & cheapest to tune.

julesv

1,800 posts

223 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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What about a blown Alfa 3 litre V6?

turbonutter

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496 posts

207 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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julesv said:
What about a blown Alfa 3 litre V6?


The old 12valve ore newer 24valve? I'v heard that the older engine is less fragile any thoughts on that?

julesv

1,800 posts

223 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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Either I would think. 12 valve I suppose a bit simpler but I have owned both and the engines were fantastic. My 12 valve had over 170000 on the clock when I got rid of it. The engine was still going like a train. Rest of the car had fallen to bits though!

Boosted LS1

21,165 posts

259 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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turbonutter said:
eliot said:
sorry but 2L kicking out massive BHP just doesn't float my boat - Lag central and probably achieved on race fuel anyway. Ally v6 would be good.


I Agree I think a V6 Would be the best either Blown or Turbo'd

Just a question of which is easiest & cheapest to tune.


How cheap are you talking about for this v6? Really cheap n/a, like £500 for a used engine or several thousand pounds for something rebuilt and blown.

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pugwash4x4

7,522 posts

220 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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How much casnh you got?

an LS7 would be perfect for this i reckon- light small and buckets of power all over the place.

you could get the same figures from a light pres. charged LS1 too- for that kind of power you are almost just bolt on and go for a supercharger- LS7 might work out cheaper though - an LS6 would possibly get you there with the right heads and cam although it might not be particularily driveable.

how much does a stratos weigh anyway? Gardner Douglas kit cars do a Lola T70 replica which weighs a pretty awe inspiring 800kg and takes an LSx quite happily- hmmm 625bhp/ton. That must be the sort of figure you will end up?

Boosted LS1

21,165 posts

259 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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The OP wanted a transverse gearbox arrangement and that stuff is heavy for the lsx engines.

I was thinking he could consider a cosworth v6 but the blocks iron. If that's to expensive then the lsx is out of his price band. Not sure what cheap alloy v6's are available, mondeo maybe?

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julesv

1,800 posts

223 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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Cadillac Northstar could be an option for a V8. Going to cost though.

ELAN+2

2,232 posts

231 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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Alfa v6, get a 12valve from a 164, cheap as chips, well strong and ideal for forced induction. not far off 300bhp should be attainable from a late spec 3.2 24valve., but not very cheap. glorious sound though

Mark

agent006

12,029 posts

263 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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LewisK said:
What about a Volvo engine, lots of those turbo/or are turbocharged very well.....


2.5 i5 turbo will do big power easily and is natively fwd. Apparently the D5 block is the same as the Audi WR i5 turbo block, so could mate the two and have a transverse i5 turbo that way.

Boosted LS1

21,165 posts

259 months

Friday 8th December 2006
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We need a budget chaps.

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