Strange problem!

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Craigc2

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146 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Right i was off out in the car needed to top up in petrol so put £15 in!

Come out of petrol station and my car instantly goes into like a Limp mode! No lights or anything on! (apart from the engine light constantly being on due to a de-cat) but the car wasn't revving freely and could feel the car sorta Chugging along!

I stop Re-set the ecu and its fine again!

Drove 15 miles still ok! apart from the car Spitting 10 inch flames out the back and really Popping quite wildly on the overrun!

it did it again abit later in which when i came to a hault the car Stalled!(i have an automattic) for the 1st time in agggges! and then again!

Revving the thing sorta made it abit better! But I'm home now! Just wondering what it could be! rather strange any ideas??

Fuel pump failure possibly??
Lambda sensor faliure??

Edited by Craigc2 on Wednesday 2nd July 23:03

stevieturbo

17,271 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Sounds more like some sort of ignition problem. What car is it ? if its french, it could be a million things.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Not an audi is it? What ecu have you got?

Craigc2

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146 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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It is unfortunately frown

Strange it would start as soon as i filled up though?

I was thinking straight away that it could be the lambda and bad fuel fiasco all over again!

I have uprated cams and pulleys, it wouldn't be down to them surely??


Craigc2

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Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Nope not an Audi.

Its a Citroen.. could it be an ECU problem hmmm!

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Craigc2 said:
Nope not an Audi.

Its a Citroen.. could it be an ECU problem hmmm!
Oh dear, few to many potatoes in the boot upsetting the balance? Ecu may need winding up, it's clockwork smile

Craigc2

Original Poster:

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214 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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good job there is warrenty still on it!

Problem is all the moderations iv done to wether they will even touch it!


Craigc2

Original Poster:

146 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Iv had strange problems like this before! Leave it overnight and it corrects itself in the morning!

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

223 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Craigc2 said:
good job there is warrenty still on it!

Problem is all the moderations iv done to wether they will even touch it!
No.

stevieturbo

17,271 posts

248 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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could be ecu, could be coils....or could be anything really...It's French !!!!!!

Ive heard cases were the wrong plugs can damage the coil packs...which in turn damage the ecu.

Sounds crazy, but then...for fear of repeating myself, It's French !!!!






Isnt hard to figure out I hate French cars lol.

TheGTkid

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190 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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i have a pug 206 gt with uprated cams/remapped/de-cat etc and had the same problem every once in a while when i used the esso station to fill up-i got the lambda sensor changed and a sports cat added and never had the problem again-my problem was the lambda sensor was fkin up with the poor fuel and the mods to my engine/exhaust system-u cud try dat?

Craigc2

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146 posts

214 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Oh yea that's what it sounds like mate!

Thank you! what ill do is, its due for a service in a couple of weeks! ill pop my std airbox on so they cant blame that. and plead ignorance then hopefully they can change it under warranty! if not there rather expensive arnt they?


rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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So let me get this straight..

Car was fine.

Went in to petrol station.

Car not fine..

You should contact the station / get fuel sample from your tank etc..

If it's duff fuel then it could cost you :

To have tanks drained
New Lambda sensors
another tank of fuel

Craigc2

Original Poster:

146 posts

214 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Yea iv emailed tesco's

See what they say. iv kept all the recipts.

If the lambda is completly Shot! wouldnt the car just pack up all together as i took it out this morning! Still the Banging and everything on overrun but no stalling and strange juddering.

Coilpack maybe :/

Hmmm

Craigc2

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Saturday 5th July 2008
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i took a quick vid

As you can see most of the fuel isnt being burnt off and just spitting out the back.

What could cause this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNrzaH8qKuw

Craigc2

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146 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Last night the car decided to stop! Wouldnt turn on or anything! i eventually got it to start but it was running like a dog!

I fort right lets get this to citroen so i was towed by the AA to Citroen.

They found the problem to be a dirty Lambda Sensor so they cleaned it all up for me and replaced it back in. The sensor was full of Soot and apparently was due to the engine running rich.

But they have sorted it and its much better Just got to go pick it up now! Was only charged £30 for this so all in all wasnt too bad and had a nice service at the same time so the car should be running allot better when i go pick it up smile

Do you think i should get a replacement lambda kit just incase this one decided to give up the ghost again? Or will it be ok just to keep cleaning it?

Slinky

15,704 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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It will have been running rich for a reason, the lambda sensor may be that reason, suggest replacing that as first port of call and go from there..

slinky

Craigc2

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146 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Yea im guessing it would be!

Although i have Kent cams fitted im sure this wouldnt make the engine Run Rich would it?!

Maybe i need the car re-mapped

Slinky

15,704 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Craigc2 said:
Yea im guessing it would be!

Although i have Kent cams fitted im sure this wouldnt make the engine Run Rich would it?!

Maybe i need the car re-mapped
The lambda sensor is there to feed information back to the ECU about the oxygen levels in your exhaust, based on these signals the ECU will adjust fuelling/timing as necessary. Was the car remapped to cope with the "kent cams" (what spec, the fact that they were made by Kent tells us nothing)?

I see from other posts that you are looking for someone to map your car live on the dyno, I suggest picking the subject up with them once you've replaced the lambda sensor (and possibly AFM/MAP sensors too)

slinky

Craigc2

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146 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Yea Iv tried Numerous places and they cant get a connection from there computers to the ECu as there is some sort of Block on the firmware.

the only way of getting round this (apparently) is by Taking the ECu out and re-soldering it.

Cams have been timed up and were Running fine until the problem. It seems to be running fine now the Lambda has been cleaned.