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Yes, 2004MY Monaro. Have a tank that sits in the spare wheel well, as its big boot model, there was the option of having bigger tank in back of boot, but that goes against the whole point of getting a big boot model. Tank is 65 litres (about 58 to fill due to expansion allowance).
Filler is on left hand side (nearside) low down on plastic bumper as there was a bit of structure on the right hand side, though I have seen big boot Ro's with an LPG filler on the right hand side. As it's so low, in my opinion, it's fairly discreet, but you'd need to ask VinceM, Araf etc, as they have seen the car and may give a slightly more 'honest' answer than that!!
Quite fun brimming both tanks for a massive run, but if both brimmed, you can feel that 125 litres of fuel swinging around behind the rear wheels!
Filler is on left hand side (nearside) low down on plastic bumper as there was a bit of structure on the right hand side, though I have seen big boot Ro's with an LPG filler on the right hand side. As it's so low, in my opinion, it's fairly discreet, but you'd need to ask VinceM, Araf etc, as they have seen the car and may give a slightly more 'honest' answer than that!!
Quite fun brimming both tanks for a massive run, but if both brimmed, you can feel that 125 litres of fuel swinging around behind the rear wheels!
GaryNoGrip said:
If you are going to own the car for a long time then may be worth it, personally I think it takes the point away from owning one of these cars, but just my opinion
True, but then it frees up more money to do other things to it! 
But don't see why for just driving to work and back etc you should be hampered with spending 137p/litre when you could be spending 68p/litre?
It's like saying I refuse to fly low cost airline to go on holiday because I'd much rather pay through the nose and and have an expensive flight, which uses the same make/model of plane and takes just as long to get there.
You can just push the button and switch back to Shell V-Power Nitro+ at any point to get the full quota of Ponies.....
I don't see why there should be a stigma attached to LPG, after all, it's just 'another mod' which pretty much all of us have done mods of some description to these cars.
But as always, each to their own. Some people don't agree with supercharging
I think North of Watford did about 100k on gas, before taking the conversion off (to make way for a supercharger).
I think he was looking to maybe refit it at a later date, but you may be able to convince him otherwise.
He's in Sweden at the moment, so if you PM him, don't expect an answer too quickly.
I think he was looking to maybe refit it at a later date, but you may be able to convince him otherwise.
He's in Sweden at the moment, so if you PM him, don't expect an answer too quickly.
blue666uk said:
GaryNoGrip said:
It frees up the money to pay for the LPG conversion lol!
Well said though it is just another mod, but on a scale out of 10 of coolness....
Ok, you got me on that one (though having said that - you ever been sprayed by LPG? Its chuffing cold!!!!!)Well said though it is just another mod, but on a scale out of 10 of coolness....
stigmundfreud said:
it only frees up money if you do mega miles though. How long would it take to recoup the costs?
The bigger and thirstier the engine, the quicker the payback. It's a personal thing, so need to work out total annual mileage and the cost that'd be at say 136p/litre for just running on petrol, then the same again using say 85% of mileage on LPG at 68p/litre and 15% on petrol at 136p/litre.For most people, if you're doing 10-12K miles a year in these cars, payback would probably be about 18 months to 2 years from a fresh install.
stigmundfreud said:
assuming the price of 1.36 for SUL and 68p for LPG that does make a quick return!
hmm lpg m5....
Just based on the sort of prices I'm paying at the moment, dare say there are regional differences, I know a lot of places elsewhere in UK you can get for LPG for 62p/litre, conversely it no doubt costs more in some places to. Obviously by the time you factor in 'normally' it's not quite half the price of petrol, normally just over, and you lose about 5% economy on the latest sequential injected systems, (compared to 15% a few years ago), 5% on our cars is nothing. Then there's a fractional loss in power, again about 5% if it's set up properly, bit more if its not, but in every day driving, you'd be hard pushed to notice.hmm lpg m5....
I work on the basis I get around 19MPG on petrol and around 18MPG on LPG, with a 'cost equivalent' of say 33MPG.
Still, you do's you research and all that. GM LS engines are pretty good and take the conversion well, Audi's and BMW's also take it well, wouldn't know about M5's though. Just need to check on the valve seat make up is the biggest thing.
ive got it on my sprinter which ive had 6 years . and tbh over a diesel van the cost savings actually have paid for the van.
im keeping the ro at least 2 years so would easily pay for itself.
any chance of a pic of your fillers please guys.
feel free to email em to maccavvy1@hotmail.com
im keeping the ro at least 2 years so would easily pay for itself.
any chance of a pic of your fillers please guys.
feel free to email em to maccavvy1@hotmail.com
To be fair the filler cap on your car Mark is fairly discreet where it is, however because you told me it was LPG'd I was looking for it. I know there are some systems that use a filler in the same location as the petrol one, so that would be the best option although I don't know if this possible on the Monaro.
What I will say is that previous to doing the job I currently do, I used to do around 13-14k a year, and messed around for years with diesels of varing shapes and sizes, bought and sold 2-3 in a year with the obvious depreciation trap. What I should have done is bought a Monaro and LPGd it and saved that way. Not an issue now as I only did 7k last year, and that's with it being a daily driver. Not something I'd do now due to future mod plans but hey you live and learn!
Only question I have is that does it justify the cost of running another car?
What I will say is that previous to doing the job I currently do, I used to do around 13-14k a year, and messed around for years with diesels of varing shapes and sizes, bought and sold 2-3 in a year with the obvious depreciation trap. What I should have done is bought a Monaro and LPGd it and saved that way. Not an issue now as I only did 7k last year, and that's with it being a daily driver. Not something I'd do now due to future mod plans but hey you live and learn!
Only question I have is that does it justify the cost of running another car?
No, due to the lack of regulation on the continent, there's a blanket ban. Daft really, as if you can provide the certification etc, shouldn't be an issue. How many motor homes and caravans go through with bottles of LPG on board! Same thing really.
UK installers have to belong to a special scheme and provide safety certification on completion, not saying its the same everywhere as surely some other countries do too, but not all do, so they just blanket banned it.
UK installers have to belong to a special scheme and provide safety certification on completion, not saying its the same everywhere as surely some other countries do too, but not all do, so they just blanket banned it.
Pic's time. Excuse the state of the car, it's not been washed for a couple of weeks, and been driving it all week, plus it's just rained so not planning on washing it just yet. Still.......
The car from a few feet away to see how discreet it is.
Bit closer
Up close
Wheel well installation. I chose a slightly larger 65 litre tank so it sits slightly proud of boot floor, you can get 55 litre which sits flush.
Engine bay looks pretty standard.
Vapouriser (I think)
Engine cover off, LPG fuel rails and injectors into inlet manifold. Sits cleanly under standard engine cover. If you had or were considering supercharging, you'd need to be careful where these were fitted here, but not an issue for me as won't be supercharging.
Hope that helps, you can always ask on here or PM me if you want any further info on install or user experiences.
The car from a few feet away to see how discreet it is.
Bit closer
Up close
Wheel well installation. I chose a slightly larger 65 litre tank so it sits slightly proud of boot floor, you can get 55 litre which sits flush.
Engine bay looks pretty standard.
Vapouriser (I think)
Engine cover off, LPG fuel rails and injectors into inlet manifold. Sits cleanly under standard engine cover. If you had or were considering supercharging, you'd need to be careful where these were fitted here, but not an issue for me as won't be supercharging.
Hope that helps, you can always ask on here or PM me if you want any further info on install or user experiences.
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