Damn my misses and her AMG!

[goldblum]

VinceM said:

and for less than the cost of the C63 the Monaro I have and love can be modified to at least keep it honest if not trounce it (opinion not fact!).

You know standard C63s regularly clock 0-60 in 4.2/3 secs? How much d'you think you'd have to spend to get down from 11 seconds to under 9 for the 0-100?

[mikeyb1987]

^^^^ I was wondering how long it took before this thread got some external attention!

Standard, an LS2 Monaro is only 50bhp shy of a C63. A cam will get you on par with one, a cam and heads gets you considerably in front.

The other side is of course a remap on a C63 gets you to over 500bhp.

[GaryNoGrip]

Stucos said:

Gary silver car i was going to see,was a vxr8

Cheers stu

Ps you know of a maloo

Ah I see, no afraid not, like rocking horse poo lol

[GaryNoGrip]

mikeyb1987 said:

^^^^ I was wondering how long it took before this thread got some external attention!

Standard, an LS2 Monaro is only 50bhp shy of a C63. A cam will get you on par with one, a cam and heads gets you considerably in front.

The other side is of course a remap on a C63 gets you to over 500bhp.

Love monaros but I know what I would rather be sat in! Outta my budget though

[mikeyb1987]

GaryNoGrip said:

Love monaros but I know what I would rather be sat in! Outta my budget though

It obviously hasn't got under your skin. I respect the C63 hugely, but there's something 'synthetic' about them- to me, a muscle car should be raw and unpretentious.

Having said that, I'd love an CLS/E63 AMG (the bi-turbo version).

[GaryNoGrip]

mikeyb1987 said:

It obviously hasn't got under your skin. I respect the C63 hugely, but there's something 'synthetic' about them- to me, a muscle car should be raw and unpretentious.

Having said that, I'd love an CLS/E63 AMG (the bi-turbo version).

Was in Merc Southampton the other day and struggled to walk away from a e63 bi turbo in white, stunning!

[mikeyb1987]

GaryNoGrip said:

Was in Merc Southampton the other day and struggled to walk away from a e63 bi turbo in white, stunning!

Sounds

I've wanted an E/CLS63 bi-turbo since watching this:
http://youtu.be/tROguV9gQ7U

So much tuning potential

[goldblum]

mikeyb1987 said:

^^^^ I was wondering how long it took before this thread got some external attention!

Standard, an LS2 Monaro is only 50bhp shy of a C63. A cam will get you on par with one, a cam and heads gets you considerably in front.

Er, Vince has an LS1. Remember - the guy whose post I quoted? It's 50bhp 70bhp and 75lb/ft short. You'll need more than a cam and heads to be 'considerably in front'. Might also help if you got your facts right.

A remap alone of the C63 will give it 525 bhp without any other mechanical interference.

[VinceM]

goldblum said:

Er, Vince has an LS1. Remember - the guy whose post I quoted? It's 50bhp 70bhp and 75lb/ft short. You'll need more than a cam and heads to be 'considerably in front'. Might also help if you got your facts right.

A remap alone of the C63 will give it 525 bhp without any other mechanical interference.

I was guessing at best. I have a lot of respect for the C63, I really do, but until they drop to under 20k, the Monaro is where it's at in my current situation.

Actually I was talking to someone on here the other day about the C63 and to say I was surprised about the remap potential is putting it mildly. And then there's that secondary cat delete pipe too...... not that I've done much research you understand...

[SturdyHSV]

C63 has the benefit of a very quick shifting gearbox, so the acceleration is effectively constant, without the huge pause whilst the bloke in the Monaro changes gear

Thing is, auto gearchanges sound crap. As do double clutch boxes. That's a rant for a different thread though...

[alfienoakes]

I did take a C63 out for a test, but I still went back to my 10 year old Monaro

The Merc didn't have the same character, was 2 fortunes, and didn't look different enough from the rest of the range for me. I guess I just like my cars to be dumb.

You can buy some lovely toys for them though :-

http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/381387-head...

[mikeyb1987]

goldblum said:

mikeyb1987 said:

^^^^ I was wondering how long it took before this thread got some external attention!

Standard, an LS2 Monaro is only 50bhp shy of a C63. A cam will get you on par with one, a cam and heads gets you considerably in front.

Er, Vince has an LS1. Remember - the guy whose post I quoted? It's 50bhp 70bhp and 75lb/ft short. You'll need more than a cam and heads to be 'considerably in front'. Might also help if you got your facts right.

A remap alone of the C63 will give it 525 bhp without any other mechanical interference.

Perhaps you need to get your facts right- there is not a 75lb/ft torque deficit. It's more like 67lb/ft. And if you look at my response, it was in relation to an LS2-engined Monaro, in a bid to be more comparable on cc. And please believe me when I say an LS2 Monaro with cam/heads will be considerably in front of a C63. This was from direct experience.

[goldblum]

mikeyb1987 said:

goldblum said:

mikeyb1987 said:

^^^^ I was wondering how long it took before this thread got some external attention!

Standard, an LS2 Monaro is only 50bhp shy of a C63. A cam will get you on par with one, a cam and heads gets you considerably in front.

Er, Vince has an LS1. Remember - the guy whose post I quoted? It's 50bhp 70bhp and 75lb/ft short. You'll need more than a cam and heads to be 'considerably in front'. Might also help if you got your facts right.

A remap alone of the C63 will give it 525 bhp without any other mechanical interference.

Perhaps you need to get your facts right- there is not a 75lb/ft torque deficit. It's more like 67lb/ft. And if you look at my response, it was in relation to an LS2-engined Monaro, in a bid to be more comparable on cc.

Try quoting properly then, because mine wasn't. There's always someone who doesn't understand how this works...

[GaryNoGrip]

Stucos said:

Gary age spec of ute,and price please

Cheers stu

FYI if you haven't seen the maloo I went to see is back on auto trader, plus vat still though

[ArnieVXR]

goldblum said:

You know standard C63s regularly clock 0-60 in 4.2/3 secs? How much d'you think you'd have to spend to get down from 11 seconds to under 9 for the 0-100?

Ooh that's fast.
And the potential to make 525bhp too.

I watched a C63 being pasted by some old fifties car (street legal) at York. Think the Merc pulled a 12 or 13 on the quarter. About as quick as ringram's £6k Camaro.

Mind you, they're only £600 a month to contract hire...

[S800VXR]

ArnieVXR said:

Mind you, they're only £600 a month to contract hire...

LOL, it's becoming a bmw forum with talk like that, Stigs gonna feel even more welcome so please stop it!

[slippery]

Greg VXR said:

1 question, how is an RS6 affordable and a SC setup not?

This is without doubt the killer question.

[S800VXR]

slippery said:

Greg VXR said:

1 question, how is an RS6 affordable and a SC setup not?

This is without doubt the killer question.

The c5 variant is a money pit to maintain properly. I sold my old one in very good nick bar the gearbox which was showing early signs of failure but could survive if driven properly. My mate who brought it has still dropped 4k on it in the last few months even though it had new brakes totally, full fluid change, new front arms, upgraded coilovers, new hoses, upgraded intercoolers etc etc when I sold it. They just suck the pennies out of you somehow and audi prices are fking ludicrous on most bits. Still nice cars mind.

[slippery]

S800VXR said:

slippery said:

Greg VXR said:

1 question, how is an RS6 affordable and a SC setup not?

This is without doubt the killer question.

The c5 variant is a money pit to maintain properly. I sold my old one in very good nick bar the gearbox which was showing early signs of failure but could survive if driven properly. My mate who brought it has still dropped 4k on it in the last few months even though it had new brakes totally, full fluid change, new front arms, upgraded coilovers, new hoses, upgraded intercoolers etc etc when I sold it. They just suck the pennies out of you somehow and audi prices are fking ludicrous on most bits. Still nice cars mind.

The C6 is the one to go for. A very reliable and strong car, but the prices are holding pretty firm. 700+ BHP can be achieved without breaking a sweat and there are some that are modified more heavily, to around 1000 BHP.

[S800VXR]

slippery said:

The C6 is the one to go for. A very reliable and strong car, but the prices are holding pretty firm. 700+ BHP can be achieved without breaking a sweat and there are some that are modified more heavily, to around 1000 BHP.

I agree as they do seem to have a good name however..... If something does go wrong I would hazard a guess its going to be serious money to fix.... Eg the gearbox or diffs. They do tend to blend in against another A6 tdi with wheels though which is an issue for me.