HSV Dyno day Oct SRR

HSV Dyno day Oct SRR

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ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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ringram said:
Useless.

I can only see one.

Where is the table and info like someone stated they were doing..?

Might as well have gone to the pub and made some numbers up.

Nevermind someone competent will have to go next time and do it properly!
I thought you said you were doing it? Then you couldn't go.

All credit for what you've done in the past, but does it really matter? Some managed to miss the puddle (you really need to sort that Charlie) so had dry tyres, then it rained, then it was dry, then it rained. Does that invalidate the wet or dry results?

There's quite a few result in the results thread. so let's see what transpires over the next few hours, as people are getting home.

BTW, you missed a good social. wink


GaryNoGrip

1,444 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Wyld Stallyn said:
Me Happy with a 377.2 WHP thumbup

But What's my Bolx Horse Pubfactor (BHP laugh ) No. ???

Is it a %age or a fixed figure for the Drive-train losses?? confused
I am also interested in how this is worked out as goldy and 007's results that are posted would suggest it's not a calculation

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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GaryNoGrip said:
Wyld Stallyn said:
Me Happy with a 377.2 WHP thumbup

But What's my Bolx Horse Pubfactor (BHP laugh ) No. ???

Is it a %age or a fixed figure for the Drive-train losses?? confused
I am also interested in how this is worked out as goldy and 007's results that are posted would suggest it's not a calculation
I think it's calculated from the drag on the rollers, but Vixpy could explain better.

Those who need the fly for bragging rights, can have a word with SRR, and they may be able to tell you from the file number on your graphs.
Goldy and 007 are just tarts. hehe

r8black

1,405 posts

129 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Well my R8 surprised me again today 420.6 Rwhp. 530.6 Fwhp. Not bad for NA and roger also stated that it was quite hot at the time of run but think he was quite pleased with the performance of his magic cam. As was i

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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GaryNoGrip said:
stigmundfreud said:
Build quality, post your print out up and afrs if you have them so we can look. Was it going too rich?

All I can see with my limited knowledge of power output is that is was looking fking good at the start!


Edited by GaryNoGrip on Saturday 18th October 20:14
They're the same giraffe, aren't they? There should be another with a lower line....

Interesting that your car pulls well from low down, which is the bit that you usually use on the road - which is why you're probably happy with how it goes. At least now that you know there's something not quite right, you can address it BEFORE you have a failure. smile

jonnM

1,102 posts

139 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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r8black said:
Well my R8 surprised me again today 420.6 Rwhp. 530.6 Fwhp. Not bad for NA and roger also stated that it was quite hot at the time of run but think he was quite pleased with the performance of his magic cam. As was i
That's a great result thumbup

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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ringram said:
R8VXF said:
ringram said:
No official results then?
Quite a few logged in the results thread already.
Useless.

I can only see one.

Where is the table and info like someone stated they were doing..?

Might as well have gone to the pub and made some numbers up.

Nevermind someone competent will have to go next time and do it properly!

? Follow the link in the first post. A nice spreadsheet and graphs are available.


Edited by R8VXF on Saturday 18th October 20:57

GaryNoGrip

1,444 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Edited by GaryNoGrip on Saturday 18th October 20:56

DJZ1

127 posts

149 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Very Happy with mine 544.6 rwhp and 683.2 fwhp

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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looks really odd, did Charlie say if it was pulling timing or what did it feel like? I had similar with a certain tuner no longer on here thank the lord got his fat fingers on my car and tuned it as if he was eating pies

hope you get it sorted soon

stevieturbo

17,259 posts

247 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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EmmaJ said:
It's definitely oily smoke from the exhaust not oil and the catch can is plumbed "inline" with the breathers coming from the crank case to the catch can and then onwards to the air intake. The can also has a manual oil return line back to the sump (which will ultimately have a non-return valve fitted so that it'll automatically drain down but for quickness it's currently fitted with a temp manual drain tap.

The reason for fitting the catch can was that I had oil misting issues and oil was being chucked out of the breathers and into the air intake and I use to get a puff of smoke on upshifts. That's been solved by fitting the can so oil must be getting in the exhaust some other way (I think) either past the piston rings or via the exhaust valve seat seals - maybe.

Next steps is the vent the catch can to somewhere other then the air intake and see if it's allowing oil through it (which I doubt). If it isn't then we'll be looking at something internal in the engine frown.

That's the gory truth and it sounds worse than it probably is, so there isn't much point in speculating further without hard facts.
Where in the air intake ? open air near the air filter inlet ? Or do you mean within the sealed area of the intake manifold ?

It should be easy to see if the can is allowing oil past...as well...you'll see the oil in that area.

Oil past the exhaust guides/valves is rare, simply because there is almost always higher pressure in there to prevent it happening other than at shutdown. Plus the valve stem seals should eliminate oil there too. Certainly it would need to be a major problem to cause visible smoke, especially under load due to a valve guide problem.

Pistons/rings, unless the seal is very poor, they still shouldnt smoke.
My engine's been used and abused for 4 years now, had a few problems and does breathe much heavier than I'd like.
But with a good can/breather setup it doesnt pass any oil at all externally, and exhausts are always clean and smoke free.

A drain back to the sump from the can should be fully automatic. This drain ideally should be below the level of the oil in the sump so crankcase pressure doesnt blow back up into the bottom of the can. Not totally critical, but ideal is below the level of oil
A can with a return in that manner requires almost no maintenance.

Does the engine actually use much oil ?

GaryNoGrip

1,444 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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-9 on timing of that means anything to you? Bad fuel/hot engine likley culprits according to Roger and Charlie

snowwolf

11,503 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Gutted I missed today, would have been good to have seen the cars on the rollers and meet up with guys and gals for a chat.

Jon Jon

58 posts

222 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Brilliant day!
Very happy with the 319whp for my LS1 VXR (wortec cat back exhaust and 200 cell cats). Great to chat with lots of people and learnt a lot.
Bacon butties were much appreciated!! smile

Jon

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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GaryNoGrip said:
-9 on timing of that means anything to you? Bad fuel/hot engine likley culprits according to Roger and Charlie
it did hit a big brick wall, will be fine to drive just not like a bd the fish will sort it

DJZ1

127 posts

149 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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WP Cam ,uprated fuel pump and WP headers /cats

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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DJZ1 said:


WP Cam ,uprated fuel pump and WP headers /cats
Cracking result. cool

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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ARAF said:
Cracking result. cool
+1 the WP cars seem to go very well. I would have kept my little 122 if I could get results like Gary's.

jameshsv

5,844 posts

160 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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DJZ1 said:


WP Cam ,uprated fuel pump and WP headers /cats
With a tvs1900.

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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and a supercharger?