Are the superchargers any good?
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GaryNoGrip said:
Wish I could edit my thread subject, just really wanted to know if that supercharger is any good as it's half the price of the ones most of you lot have, if I keep the ute eventually I will want more power and this is more affordable to me, or would I be better off staying n/a?
If you are very very specifically asking about that small supercharger with no intercooler in the photo...Then no, I'd say it probably isnt a great option. But it does depend what you want, and more importantly how much more you might want in the future.
There are many limitations with that base kit, notably it's belt drive, the small blower, lack of intercooler, alloy bracket.
It is cheap for a reason. Of course it can be upgraded, but then you'd be buying many parts over again, so cost will increase over time to improve it.
007 VXR said:
GnG , What is your budget and end goal ? What do you want that you dont have now ?
Not even close to working out a budget tbh, this is a way down the road yet, think my problem is I had the rs6 before, thought I could happily drop down in power for happyness, it's not slow by any means which is a credit to its former owner but sometimes just want that little bit more.Never going to be able to put too much in as traction will be a real issue(let alone funds) and I like the fact it's my dd, but the thought of a supercharger would be pretty cool!
GaryNoGrip said:
Not even close to working out a budget tbh, this is a way down the road yet, think my problem is I had the rs6 before, thought I could happily drop down in power for happyness, it's not slow by any means which is a credit to its former owner but sometimes just want that little bit more.
Never going to be able to put too much in as traction will be a real issue(let alone funds) and I like the fact it's my dd, but the thought of a supercharger would be pretty cool!
Centrifugals are great.Never going to be able to put too much in as traction will be a real issue(let alone funds) and I like the fact it's my dd, but the thought of a supercharger would be pretty cool!
But do not buy a kit with no intercooler. And do not buy a kit that doesnt have a direct belt drive from the crank.
The kit pictured is the very basic one which takes the belt drive via the PAS pulley. Which is ok for the very lowest boost levels, but that's about it.
Whilst it would be a lot more expensive, purchasing the front end accessories from a 2010+ camaro, ie front crank pulley, alternator and PAS pump setup to allow fitment of their kits could make a lot of sense.
Some of the kits offered for their kits are pretty comprehensive and look very good. Plus you'd have the choice of virtually any centrifugal blower. Options are a good thing.
Sticking with the older platform you have now, there are only a couple of options. The basic CAPA/Vortech kit or Procharger. Neither of which are particularly fantastic without additional work.
007 VXR said:
S/c are great and work well.
cant comment on the one you mention as i have not had that on my car.
what other power mods are on you car so far?
As far as I'm aware a k and n panel filter, 3" downpipe back exhaust, that's about it, could mess around and do headers,cai and remap first, may be enough. cant comment on the one you mention as i have not had that on my car.
what other power mods are on you car so far?
H5V VE said:
I think that the bottom line is, yes, its good. However it delivers its power in a different way to the PD ones that most have.
I happen to have both types - a PD on the VXR8 and a centri on the GTS and both are very effective albeit different - its a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer I guess. Personally I prefer the power delivery of the PD.
The centris were very popular back in the day on the VT's so cant be all bad. Behold81 has fitted one to his GTS as well - by choice - so no doubt can give you his view on a centri.
At some point, feel free to pop up the M3 and you are welcome to see the 2 in action.
That sounds like an offer I can't refuse, are you about at the weekend?I happen to have both types - a PD on the VXR8 and a centri on the GTS and both are very effective albeit different - its a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer I guess. Personally I prefer the power delivery of the PD.
The centris were very popular back in the day on the VT's so cant be all bad. Behold81 has fitted one to his GTS as well - by choice - so no doubt can give you his view on a centri.
At some point, feel free to pop up the M3 and you are welcome to see the 2 in action.
stevieturbo said:
Centrifugals are great.
But do not buy a kit with no intercooler. And do not buy a kit that doesnt have a direct belt drive from the crank.
The kit pictured is the very basic one which takes the belt drive via the PAS pulley. Which is ok for the very lowest boost levels, but that's about it.
Whilst it would be a lot more expensive, purchasing the front end accessories from a 2010+ camaro, ie front crank pulley, alternator and PAS pump setup to allow fitment of their kits could make a lot of sense.
Some of the kits offered for their kits are pretty comprehensive and look very good. Plus you'd have the choice of virtually any centrifugal blower. Options are a good thing.
Sticking with the older platform you have now, there are only a couple of options. The basic CAPA/Vortech kit or Procharger. Neither of which are particularly fantastic without additional work.
Thanks very usefulBut do not buy a kit with no intercooler. And do not buy a kit that doesnt have a direct belt drive from the crank.
The kit pictured is the very basic one which takes the belt drive via the PAS pulley. Which is ok for the very lowest boost levels, but that's about it.
Whilst it would be a lot more expensive, purchasing the front end accessories from a 2010+ camaro, ie front crank pulley, alternator and PAS pump setup to allow fitment of their kits could make a lot of sense.
Some of the kits offered for their kits are pretty comprehensive and look very good. Plus you'd have the choice of virtually any centrifugal blower. Options are a good thing.
Sticking with the older platform you have now, there are only a couple of options. The basic CAPA/Vortech kit or Procharger. Neither of which are particularly fantastic without additional work.
GaryNoGrip said:
H5V VE said:
I think that the bottom line is, yes, its good. However it delivers its power in a different way to the PD ones that most have.
I happen to have both types - a PD on the VXR8 and a centri on the GTS and both are very effective albeit different - its a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer I guess. Personally I prefer the power delivery of the PD.
The centris were very popular back in the day on the VT's so cant be all bad. Behold81 has fitted one to his GTS as well - by choice - so no doubt can give you his view on a centri.
At some point, feel free to pop up the M3 and you are welcome to see the 2 in action.
That sounds like an offer I can't refuse, are you about at the weekend?I happen to have both types - a PD on the VXR8 and a centri on the GTS and both are very effective albeit different - its a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer I guess. Personally I prefer the power delivery of the PD.
The centris were very popular back in the day on the VT's so cant be all bad. Behold81 has fitted one to his GTS as well - by choice - so no doubt can give you his view on a centri.
At some point, feel free to pop up the M3 and you are welcome to see the 2 in action.
Drop me an email and we can sort something out
H5V VE said:
GaryNoGrip said:
H5V VE said:
I think that the bottom line is, yes, its good. However it delivers its power in a different way to the PD ones that most have.
I happen to have both types - a PD on the VXR8 and a centri on the GTS and both are very effective albeit different - its a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer I guess. Personally I prefer the power delivery of the PD.
The centris were very popular back in the day on the VT's so cant be all bad. Behold81 has fitted one to his GTS as well - by choice - so no doubt can give you his view on a centri.
At some point, feel free to pop up the M3 and you are welcome to see the 2 in action.
That sounds like an offer I can't refuse, are you about at the weekend?I happen to have both types - a PD on the VXR8 and a centri on the GTS and both are very effective albeit different - its a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer I guess. Personally I prefer the power delivery of the PD.
The centris were very popular back in the day on the VT's so cant be all bad. Behold81 has fitted one to his GTS as well - by choice - so no doubt can give you his view on a centri.
At some point, feel free to pop up the M3 and you are welcome to see the 2 in action.
Drop me an email and we can sort something out
Whilst a drive in vehicles with both types will be useful...
Even within both types of supercharger, there will be huge differences of levels of performance available.
A 500hp centri will be very different to an 800hp centri, and also likewise with a Rootes type if the Roote's will ever make the bigger number
Even within both types of supercharger, there will be huge differences of levels of performance available.
A 500hp centri will be very different to an 800hp centri, and also likewise with a Rootes type if the Roote's will ever make the bigger number
blue666uk said:
I had also spoken to MF about my LS1 and possibly looking at the cam route, but the LS1 heads are very restrictive and ideally, CAI, heads, inlet, headers all the way back need upgrading to benefit from a CAM on an LS1 - an LS2 is a much better starting point for a CAM upgrade.
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