Searching for the right Monaro

Searching for the right Monaro

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Janosh

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1,736 posts

168 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Hi guys,

I've just sold my S2000 and will now be starting the hunt for a Monaro.

From research I think I'm looking for a 5.7 VXR, to benefit from the facelift, big boot and cheap tax.

I'll also be looking for a car that's had a LS7 clutch and importantly a wortec or similar exhaust.

I'm not in a rush, so should I be considering all the various models: 6.0's and CV8's, or should I take my take a wait for a 5.7 VRX in the right spec?

Looking forward to hearing your advice...

Many thanks, hopefully I'll be able to post some pictures of my new p&j soon!

ARAF

20,759 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Janosh said:
Hi guys,

I've just sold my S2000 and will now be starting the hunt for a Monaro.

From research I think I'm looking for a 5.7 VXR, to benefit from the facelift, big boot and cheap tax.

I'll also be looking for a car that's had a LS7 clutch and importantly a wortec or similar exhaust.

I'm not in a rush, so should I be considering all the various models: 6.0's and CV8's, or should I take my take a wait for a 5.7 VRX in the right spec?

Looking forward to hearing your advice...

Many thanks, hopefully I'll be able to post some pictures of my new p&j soon!
Welcome to our little part of Pistonheads. smile

They're all getting a bit old now, so buy on condition first. The 5.7 VXR did look different to the standard Monaro (CV8), but the real facelift was when the boot became smaller and the bonnet had nostrils. This was for later CV8s and 6.0 VXRs.

Some of these can be found, registered before 23rd March 2006, so in the lower tax band (if this is a big stumbling block for you).

Good luck with the search, and post pictures and details of anything you find - but don't link to the advert, as there's too many vultures that watch forums, waiting for others to spot a good thing before buying it out under your nose.

Major Monaro

276 posts

130 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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ARAF said:
Welcome to our little part of Pistonheads. smile

They're all getting a bit old now, so buy on condition first. The 5.7 VXR did look different to the standard Monaro (CV8), but the real facelift was when the boot became smaller and the bonnet had nostrils. This was for later CV8s and 6.0 VXRs.

Some of these can be found, registered before 23rd March 2006, so in the lower tax band (if this is a big stumbling block for you).

Good luck with the search, and post pictures and details of anything you find - but don't link to the advert, as there's too many vultures that watch forums, waiting for others to spot a good thing before buying it out under your nose.
I'v got the cheap tax and with all the looks lol

TonyTwoTribes

356 posts

117 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Good call, I've had two S2000's the last a Mugen spec, but my VXR 6 ltr Ro is way more fun. Maybe worth trying some one like James at Elite who is well into Ro's and VXR8's. We brought our first Ro VXR (but probably not the last) off him a few months back and he's been really helpful. Good luck with the search.

VinceM

1,896 posts

139 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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I also once had an S2000 and wasn't that keen on it. Was wrong car for me. I now have a 5.7 VXR Monaro and love it. You can get cheaper tax as said above. They are not complex cars but are getting on and you need to budget accordingly. One of the best aspects of ownership is this forum.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Welcome smile

Another Vote for James, call him 1st wink

Major Monaro

276 posts

130 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Major Monaro said:
ARAF said:
Welcome to our little part of Pistonheads. smile

They're all getting a bit old now, so buy on condition first. The 5.7 VXR did look different to the standard Monaro (CV8), but the real facelift was when the boot became smaller and the bonnet had nostrils. This was for later CV8s and 6.0 VXRs.

Some of these can be found, registered before 23rd March 2006, so in the lower tax band (if this is a big stumbling block for you).

Good luck with the search, and post pictures and details of anything you find - but don't link to the advert, as there's too many vultures that watch forums, waiting for others to spot a good thing before buying it out under your nose.
I'v got the cheap tax and with all the looks lol
Vxr ls2 and with cv8 tax that's me (05) . I think the extra in the tax is the lest of any owners worrys, I think that the only thing that matters is just getting a good well looked after example of one of these rear beasts

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Major Monaro said:
Vxr ls2 and with cv8 tax that's me (05) . I think the extra in the tax is the lest of any owners worrys, I think that the only thing that matters is just getting a good well looked after example of one of these rear beasts
also you can pay by direct debit from next month smile

Major Monaro

276 posts

130 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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007 VXR said:
Major Monaro said:
Vxr ls2 and with cv8 tax that's me (05) . I think the extra in the tax is the lest of any owners worrys, I think that the only thing that matters is just getting a good well looked after example of one of these rear beasts
also you can pay by direct debit from next month smile
Thumbs up all round mark lol

EmmaJ

4,525 posts

147 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I believe the 5.7 VXR's are the rarest of Monaro's so you might be waiting a long time for one to come up especially with the mods you want. Another vote for James @ Elite...

Good luck with the search smile

Janosh

Original Poster:

1,736 posts

168 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Thanks for the advice guys - am i also right in thinking that the 5.7 VXR had a shorter final drive so a better set of ratios?

I've been in contact with James, but nothing in stock at the moment.... the wait / search continues!

GaryNoGrip

1,444 posts

176 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Another vote for the 6.0 vxr, would look into this as you won't have to wait as long, I know there is a lovely red one for sale soonwhistle

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Imho, drive bothe 5.7 and 6.0 before you buy.

VinceM

1,896 posts

139 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Janosh said:
Thanks for the advice guys - am i also right in thinking that the 5.7 VXR had a shorter final drive so a better set of ratios?
So I'm led to believe woohoo

wozzza

404 posts

132 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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5.7 runs a 3.73:1 ratio. 6.0 is 3.46:1. While the 5.7 diff is lower the actual box itself is longer.

So there isn't a huge difference. Although if going flat out the ratios on the 5.7 work out better. It'll top out in 5th at a higher speed than the 6.0.

Not not much between them standard, they are both pretty performance wise. The 5.7 comes with some different unique bits as well. Interior is different. Comes with a set of shorty headers. Big boot and other minor changes. Boot was my reason for wanting one mainly. Couldn't manage with the 6.0 as my everyday car.

Personally I wouldn't worry so much about an LS7 clutch if all you want is an exhaust. The clutch only becomes an issue when pushing more power. Which is why many tend to have them on here. Lot of people run cams, superchargers etc. Where they are adding a fair bit of power and torque.

Most of them will have an exhaust now. But even that can be done cheapish.

Think the main thing to ask is, are you going to be modifying it or not? If not then get the nicest VXR you can find. If you are, then even a CV8 might be a decent choice. As you will likely replace everything apart from the bodykit if it gets under your skin.

My 5.7 VXR I wasn't going to do much too, now I'm thinking heads, cam, possibly supercharger etc.

Edited by wozzza on Monday 8th September 09:38

KMud

2,924 posts

157 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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wozzza said:
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Personally I wouldn't worry so much about an LS7 clutch if all you want is an exhaust. The clutch only becomes an issue when pushing more power. Which is why many tend to have them on here. Lot of people run cams, superchargers etc. Where they are adding a fair bit of power and torque.

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The LS1 clutch is more prone to the soggy pedal/bad fluid problems than the LS7 clutch, and if still on the LS1 clutch that implies original clutch slave which would now be a ticking time-bomb. You can't get an LS1 clutch any more, the LS7 is the standard replacement.

GaryNoGrip

1,444 posts

176 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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When I thought my clutch was on its way out the ls7 seemed to be the best replacement as per advice on here

Janosh

Original Poster:

1,736 posts

168 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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GaryNoGrip said:
Another vote for the 6.0 vxr, would look into this as you won't have to wait as long, I know there is a lovely red one for sale soonwhistle
Can you PM me some details thumbup

Edited by Janosh on Monday 8th September 10:52

Janosh

Original Poster:

1,736 posts

168 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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As stated above, the reason for the LS7 clutch would be remidial rather than coping with extra power. Any car on the original will likely need doing soon.

Aside from the exhaust and other light mod's, I won't be going crazy with the modifications, so I'll take everyone's advice and focus on VXR's but look at some 6.0 cars as well.

I should add that this is all wishful thinking as there seems to be almost no cars available at the moment!

VinceM

1,896 posts

139 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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wozzza said:
My 5.7 VXR I wasn't going to do much too, now I'm thinking heads, cam, possibly supercharger etc.

Edited by wozzza on Monday 8th September 09:38
This, completely, is where I'm at also!