Winter tyres fitted today

Winter tyres fitted today

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jameshsv

5,844 posts

159 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Sarge 4x4 said:


Not quite my daily drive but about the best off-road fun you can have.

I have used the Defender a lot more than the Gen-F this year but still love it.



I would not bother fitting winter tyres to the Gen-F as I have a few other interesting toys to play with and IF it snows the Quad will be the first thing to play with.

Wife always shakes her head when it snows as it does not matter what time day or night I will be out in it.

Two winters ago my son James and myself too the Can-Am Commander out green laning at night in the snow, what a blast.

Edited by Sarge 4x4 on Saturday 20th December 08:07
The car looks great in white

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

121 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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I would say all four corners or nothing. Having massive grip on one axle and zero grip on the other is more dangerous than zero grip all round IMO.

I have been searching for another comparison video when winters were only fitted to the drive wheels, this was great until braking moderately where the car lost control big time.


Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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That's the reason why we only fit to all four corners. wink

Gary H 2008

3,507 posts

188 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Good to know, thanks peeps.

The daily has 19's - so working out if a set of 17" wheels + tyres would be cheaper than a set of 19" winter tyres.

SteveMJ

919 posts

195 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Gary H 2008 said:
Good to know, thanks peeps.

The daily has 19's - so working out if a set of 17" wheels + tyres would be cheaper than a set of 19" winter tyres.
I understood that only 19" would fit over the calipers on s VXR8. Keen to know if I'm mistaken.

Steve

ARAF

20,759 posts

222 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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I run with just winters on the front of my FWD car - but only when the weather is due to be bad. It's not recommended, though little different to all four of one type in all but the worst of conditions. Even then, if you're driving accordingly, then there's no reason for it to be dangerous. You can make the car oversteer like crazy on snow, and you do need to be careful when braking heavily in all but a straight line when the white stuff is down.

I can understand Andy's stance. Some people would fit two, then when it all went wrong, would blame the fitters for not fitting four rather than their own lack of ability. I'm not sure that they will be needed here this winter, but I'm hoping. smile

Gary, it's not just the cost of the tyres, it's also the cost of changing them back and forth, and the fact that the more sidewall you have on the tyre, the better they will be in snow and mud.

preciousmetal

3,369 posts

175 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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SteveMJ said:
Gary H 2008 said:
Good to know, thanks peeps.

The daily has 19's - so working out if a set of 17" wheels + tyres would be cheaper than a set of 19" winter tyres.
I understood that only 19" would fit over the calipers on s VXR8. Keen to know if I'm mistaken.

Steve
FYI - Gary's daily driver is an AR 159 Sportwagon not the VXR8. So comment about 17s relates to this car

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

121 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Gary H 2008 said:
Good to know, thanks peeps.

The daily has 19's - so working out if a set of 17" wheels + tyres would be cheaper than a set of 19" winter tyres.
There is a company my mate just got steel wheels and tyres for a MENTAL price !!! His Golf GT has 19's fitted standard and has just got 16" steel wheels with Dunlop winter sports for £360 all in for 4..plus they then gave him a £40 fuel voucher too !

I will try find the details, but naturally Sarge would be worth a shout too wink

Gary H 2008

3,507 posts

188 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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That would be very handy thank you smile

And Yes Ian, a little bit of tail happy action out of the dog basket kind of appeals biggrin


ARAF

20,759 posts

222 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Gary H 2008 said:
And Yes Ian, a little bit of tail happy action out of the dog basket kind of appeals biggrin
All four for the daily grind, but swap the rears back for playtime then? Win-Win. biggrin

chrisgixer

153 posts

159 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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A refreshing change to see a winter tyre thread not degrade into a slagging match on the absolutes of plus or minus 7c. smile


Shan't be using them personally, even though my conti sports contact 3's are shockingly appallingly terribly bad in Snow. As I don't think my work pattern and likelyhood of snow warrant winters, I prefer the wet weather and grip performance of my summers over the vast majority of winters in conditions that are nearer summer for 90% of the year.

I do think it's worth checking the performance of your tyres in snow though, if that info is available anywhere. Save getting thoroughly cought out as I was.( Sailed through a red light having quadrupled my braking distance)

In a recent winter tyre test they used sports contact 3 as a comparison in the braking test on snow. Braking from 30mph, all the winter tyres had stopped, while the sc3 was still doing 27mph.

If you have sc3 fitted, or a tyre with a similar grooved/minimal tread block tread pattern, and it snows. Stay home. Keep prescious safe in the garage. smile

SteveMJ

919 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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preciousmetal said:
FYI - Gary's daily driver is an AR 159 Sportwagon not the VXR8. So comment about 17s relates to this car
Drats, I thought I found a reasonably priced solution to the winter tyre for mine.

Thanks, Steve

vxr2010

2,554 posts

158 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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I keep two winter tyres on wheels in the boot of the Monaro and just doing the same in the ute , the problem with a rear wheel drive and lots of power it does not want to go any where , four snow tyres are better but 2 tyres , two tyres on the rear axle and drive sensibly makes the car use able , the Monaro with rear snow tyres v subaru with normal tyres , the Monaro stops better but to stop you are better using gears or brake hard to get rear brakes working to there max , but the positive side moving off grip is the same , the best option is snow tyres all round on the subaru and that's a lot of fun , downside of snow tyres they are best in the snow and not in other conditions , i have been sideways in non snow but cold conditions not going very fast and that was in the subaru withy all four fitted , in short 2 snow tyres on the Monaro will get you out of a problem you would have been stuck otherwise well worth the investment

vxr2010

2,554 posts

158 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STaximkaQxo

I don't know if this link will work , it not its on YouTube , rear wheel drive and winter tyres v four wheel drive and summer tyres on snow

pah250

3,267 posts

154 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Well I'm glad I've got them fitted to mine on all 4 corners:



Not showing any sign of stopping (the snow falling that is)

Edited by pah250 on Friday 26th December 20:54

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

204 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Send a little down here Paul, boosts business big time. wink

ARAF

20,759 posts

222 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Sarge 4x4 said:
Send a little down here Paul, boosts business big time. wink
It turns the roads into a play ground. smile

leigh1050

2,372 posts

164 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Sarge 4x4 said:
Send a little down here Paul, boosts business big time. wink
WHATyikesYou can keep the nasty stuff as far away from me as you like,can't stand the stuffevil

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

204 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Poof. laugh

pah250

3,267 posts

154 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Well I've just had an interesting experience. The road into my estate has quite a steep incline from the main road. All the snow and slush has been packed down to ice, and melted/re-froze over the last few nights etc. As I drove in just now, a F*rd Ka was stuck. Front wheels spinning, going no where. Nice lady with a particularly pert bottom trying to push the car and getting no where. Another car waiting patiently at the top of the hill to come down, and I'm at the bottom of the hill, back end half on the main road, waiting to go up the hill. So, I decided to give it and blast and see if I could get my 2 tonne beast past the Ka and up the hill. It did, first time, no trouble, not even a hint of wheel spin. I was bloomin amazed as the road surface is practically just an ice sheet with craters.

So that's me convinced. I'll be using winter tyres every year from now on!