Outright performance tyre
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Any recommendations on a maximum grip tyre ? Looking for max grip but not a track day orientated tyre. Road only so don't want to loose any wet grip braking.
Hearing good things about Michelin pilot super sport, but not much first hand experience around, too new I guess. I 'm also dubious about Michelins generally, as they seem to offer most of their grip in the first few k then go off and settle down to do big miles. Which is not what I'm looking for, ultimately.
Any sticky road tyre recommendations? Ta
Hearing good things about Michelin pilot super sport, but not much first hand experience around, too new I guess. I 'm also dubious about Michelins generally, as they seem to offer most of their grip in the first few k then go off and settle down to do big miles. Which is not what I'm looking for, ultimately.
Any sticky road tyre recommendations? Ta
MPSS ALL day long imho 
No issues with grip falling off oon mine.
Will be trying MPSS cup+2 next as hearing very good things about them, and no issues with the wet, like the old cup sports
Have had MPSS for 3 years and 12K miles ... NO Issues
And they can take 535 rwhp in the warm weather and when tyres are hot
No issues with grip falling off oon mine.
Will be trying MPSS cup+2 next as hearing very good things about them, and no issues with the wet, like the old cup sports
Have had MPSS for 3 years and 12K miles ... NO Issues
And they can take 535 rwhp in the warm weather and when tyres are hot
Gary H 2008 said:
...and they can take a little more too 
Totally night and day to any other tyre I've used too. 8K a year, all weathers and I don't hang around. They're used on road, on track, on airfields...but mainly in anger
And to answer your next question...
Pagid RS29's
^^^ This all day long. Run the same setup on my Monaro with 620rw with only a 245 section MPSS and I wouldn't run anything else.Totally night and day to any other tyre I've used too. 8K a year, all weathers and I don't hang around. They're used on road, on track, on airfields...but mainly in anger
And to answer your next question...
Pagid RS29's
chrisgixer said:
Any recommendations on a maximum grip tyre ? Looking for max grip but not a track day orientated tyre. Road only so don't want to loose any wet grip braking.
Hearing good things about Michelin pilot super sport, but not much first hand experience around, too new I guess. I 'm also dubious about Michelins generally, as they seem to offer most of their grip in the first few k then go off and settle down to do big miles. Which is not what I'm looking for, ultimately.
Any sticky road tyre recommendations? Ta
No standard road tyre is going to come close to a track type tyre like an 888, but obviously in standing water they arent great. Damp roads are fine though. It's just puddles etc will be dangerous.Hearing good things about Michelin pilot super sport, but not much first hand experience around, too new I guess. I 'm also dubious about Michelins generally, as they seem to offer most of their grip in the first few k then go off and settle down to do big miles. Which is not what I'm looking for, ultimately.
Any sticky road tyre recommendations? Ta
Yokohama AD08R is sort of middle ground ( havent used them yet though )
It is a soft compound tyre, but it also has a full and normal tread pattern and also of full depth. So should cover road use very well
They also do a regular AD08 which would be a more road orientated compound with same tread design.
Many seem to like the Michelins here too.
Toyo's R1R if they do your size is a soft compound option and again with a good full tread design soul would be fine in wet conditions
But any R type compound isnt going to have a huge lifespan
I don't have much experience of many other tyres other than the PSS, so I can't comment on how well they compare to other brands, although they seem very popular on here.
Lifespan wise, they don't suddenly drop off in grip, especially not in the dry. Once you get down to the wear indicators they do get a lot more slippery in the wet, but I've found that's only when provoked, they're still a very trustworthy tyre.
Lifespan wise, they don't suddenly drop off in grip, especially not in the dry. Once you get down to the wear indicators they do get a lot more slippery in the wet, but I've found that's only when provoked, they're still a very trustworthy tyre.
Price is not an issue if the performance is there. I don't have an issue paying for stuff that works and works well. I do bauk at paying top money for stuff that's not up to the job, and thus far I've seen top shelf Michelins destroyed in short order. Pilot sport 2 to be precise.
Defo looking for road performance though. So has to have good wet weather ratings. Which would include minimal aqua planing in standing water. M4 drainage is very bad in heavy weather, with deep puddles creeping into lane 3.
Looks like I'll have to give these pss a spin. Thankyou for all your suggestions lady and gents.
....oh, any thoughts on what sort of miles to expect out of these pss? It's a lesser requirement to see decent miles but just out of interest. ....Front especially. As my fronts are low.
Defo looking for road performance though. So has to have good wet weather ratings. Which would include minimal aqua planing in standing water. M4 drainage is very bad in heavy weather, with deep puddles creeping into lane 3.
Looks like I'll have to give these pss a spin. Thankyou for all your suggestions lady and gents.
....oh, any thoughts on what sort of miles to expect out of these pss? It's a lesser requirement to see decent miles but just out of interest.
....Front especially. As my fronts are low.
Gary H 2008 said:
Beg to differ. The MPSS Does as good, if not a better job - especially in the wet.
That's no surprise, as said the 888's are not intended for water. But damp roads they work very well. Standing water...nope.But dry ( outright performance ), I'd be fairly sure the 888's will be much better.
stevieturbo said:
Gary H 2008 said:
Beg to differ. The MPSS Does as good, if not a better job - especially in the wet.
That's no surprise, as said the 888's are not intended for water. But damp roads they work very well. Standing water...nope.But dry ( outright performance ), I'd be fairly sure the 888's will be much better.
S800VXR said:
Do 888s work with these Lardy cars...? I know Pilot Cups don't like heavy cars and go off quickly when used hard. Any small deficit in tyre performance can normally be rectified by a little bravery I found!
My car is a similar weight around 1720kgs on track, and I've had no issues with 888's under any conditions, other than not offering enough grip. But that would apply to any tyre.I did have a set of Pilot Sport Cups on the rear a few years back, and they were complete dung. Certainly for any road use they offered no grip whatsoever.
I had them on at the Edinburgh airport event and I had no traction at all until 5th gear, ie 150+
Mine never went off...as they were never on in the first place lol I can only presume they would need some very hard track use to get enough heat into them to work. But for any road type use I'd just say they were dangerous
I tried Federal FZ201's at the back too...same sort of story. Better than the PSC's, but nowhere near as good as 888's
They too probably needed a lot more heat.
Had a set of the Kumho Ecsta's, Super soft compound, seemed to work well, but lasted less than 1k before they were illegal. Looking back over actual performance times etc...they werent any better than 888's anyway
I've had the 888's on some hillclimbs and around a track sprint, circa 2 miles or so and they worked great with no issues.
But for the road, because of the puddles/standing water issue, the 888's wouldnt be for all. But for a dry or damp performance road legal tyre, they are very good.
That said, I'd still only expect 2-3k from them, less with hard usage.
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