Spotted..Stevieturbo giving me a whooping at TOTB

[fastbikes76]

well after nearly two days of trying to get the video off Drop Box, I give up

Absolute machine Steve, looked an sounded lovely mate

[anonymous-user]

Well done Stevie, I always enjoy your practical DIY approach to the things the rest of us find so difficult and expensive to achieve.

Is that the same 402 LS2 and GT9 cam as before? What's your target now for the 1/4, low 9s ? You should get it to VMax, I would actually pay to watch the Granny wipe the smiles off the faces of owners of much more exotic machinery.

[stevieturbo]

wormus said:

Well done Stevie, I always enjoy your practical DIY approach to the things the rest of us find so difficult and expensive to achieve.

Is that the same 402 LS2 and GT9 cam as before? What's your target now for the 1/4, low 9s ? You should get it to VMax, I would actually pay to watch the Granny wipe the smiles off the faces of owners of much more exotic machinery.

It's the same 382 I've been using for a few years. I downsized from the 402 about 4 years ago. I changed cam/valvetrain at the start of this year to a solid roller along with a freshen up mostly with a new LS2 block I've had sitting for a while that I had oil squirters fitted to.
It's still a mild profile cam...which was probably counter productive to me seeking more rpm's, as it hasnt really changed much, I still find myself shifting before 7k, as it just isnt pulling strongly to warrant hanging on further.


From reports on other forums where others have tried to take part in VMax with vehicles that would perhaps annoy the supercar owners and they were refused.
It's their event so fair enough, they have their own reasons about who does or doesnt attend, but at something like £300+ per entry too ? Nope.

I dont think I would have any interest in going in the first place, nor would I have any real interest ( or death wish ) to hold the car anything beyond a mile distance. It's already stupid doing the speeds it does and every run at the weekend it broke traction again at 185mph, so the car isnt that comfortable up there as things stand now.
I need to find something subtle that will help with that with aero reducing lift without changing the cars external appearance.

As for 1/4's, I havent been to a proper drag strip in 7 years. I know it will do low-mid 9's, I'm just not sure I want to risk breaking things to do it. But I would like to get back to Santa Pod or Shakespeare at some point. Also not sure how well the organic clutch would handle a big launch...of course if it doesnt, it'll be easier on the box lol.

And the Syvecs is superb.

[MyM8V8]

stevieturbo said:

wormus said:

Well done Stevie, I always enjoy your practical DIY approach to the things the rest of us find so difficult and expensive to achieve.

Is that the same 402 LS2 and GT9 cam as before? What's your target now for the 1/4, low 9s ? You should get it to VMax, I would actually pay to watch the Granny wipe the smiles off the faces of owners of much more exotic machinery.

It's the same 382 I've been using for a few years. I downsized from the 402 about 4 years ago. I changed cam/valvetrain at the start of this year to a solid roller along with a freshen up mostly with a new LS2 block I've had sitting for a while that I had oil squirters fitted to.
It's still a mild profile cam...which was probably counter productive to me seeking more rpm's, as it hasnt really changed much, I still find myself shifting before 7k, as it just isnt pulling strongly to warrant hanging on further.


From reports on other forums where others have tried to take part in VMax with vehicles that would perhaps annoy the supercar owners and they were refused.
It's their event so fair enough, they have their own reasons about who does or doesnt attend, but at something like £300+ per entry too ? Nope.

I dont think I would have any interest in going in the first place, nor would I have any real interest ( or death wish ) to hold the car anything beyond a mile distance. It's already stupid doing the speeds it does and every run at the weekend it broke traction again at 185mph, so the car isnt that comfortable up there as things stand now.
I need to find something subtle that will help with that with aero reducing lift without changing the cars external appearance.

As for 1/4's, I havent been to a proper drag strip in 7 years. I know it will do low-mid 9's, I'm just not sure I want to risk breaking things to do it. But I would like to get back to Santa Pod or Shakespeare at some point. Also not sure how well the organic clutch would handle a big launch...of course if it doesnt, it'll be easier on the box lol.

And the Syvecs is superb.

Nice install Stevie.

Who did the oil squirters for you. Did you use the Katech ones?. I have a block I'd like to get done.

[stevieturbo]

MyM8V8 said:

Nice install Stevie.

Who did the oil squirters for you. Did you use the Katech ones?. I have a block I'd like to get done.

I bought the block from AES about 3 years ago and they did the work...long story, but dont even think about using them if they're even still trading.

Yes they are Katech squirters...and the other thing to note, if you are using anything longer than standard stroke, I would think carefully before fitting the squirters.
It was never mentioned to me at the time, I only discovered how little room there is in there when I started putting it together.

Some fouled on the cranks counter balance weights/webs, the piston skirts, and the side of the rods during rotation, and I'm only at 3.825" stroke. If you were longer it would be even worse.
I tried to clearance as best as possible...but I know I dont have enough, and fully expect some to have broken off inside if I take it apart again. It really is damn tight in there. I should have had more patience and clearanced more from the pistons and bend them up that way a bit more but I was just pissed off and said fk it.

If doing it again, I'd probably just consider the LSA block with them already fitted, but when I bought the block I did so I wouldnt need to buy new pistons as well.

None of the above is really the fault of AES, its just there is so little room for the squirters. But I and many others have had lots of issues with AES and would not trust them with anything.

I'm sure any decent machine shop should be able to do the install though, as it looks fairly simple

Basically just mill a flat platform and drill up into the main oil galleries, and tap out M10. Obviously the flat platform would need to be a specific height

[fastbikes76]

Well it only took three days to upload a 16 second clip lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GGo-2pwl4

[stevieturbo]

fastbikes76 said:

Well it only took three days to upload a 16 second clip lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GGo-2pwl4

Any idea what day/time that was at ? Cant seem to find in car from videos, but cant see car in other lane easily.

[fastbikes76]

I know it was the Sat as I didnt run on the Sunday. I will try find out time , it was a mate who filmed this run as some idiot handt setup his GoPro properly yet lol

[fastbikes76]

The run was filmed at 13:04 but the time slip reads 13:09. It was my first run of the afternoon having done 3 previous runs in the morning (after nearly 2 hours trying to sign on !!!)

[stevieturbo]

This seems to be the same run ( maybe still processing as I post it )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy2G3szYep8&fe...

[fastbikes76]

stevieturbo said:

This seems to be the same run ( maybe still processing as I post it )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy2G3szYep8&fe...

Yup, thats the run. Very fast car you have there mate ! what sort of power you running now ?

[MyM8V8]

stevieturbo said:

MyM8V8 said:

Nice install Stevie.

Who did the oil squirters for you. Did you use the Katech ones?. I have a block I'd like to get done.

I bought the block from AES about 3 years ago and they did the work...long story, but dont even think about using them if they're even still trading.

Yes they are Katech squirters...and the other thing to note, if you are using anything longer than standard stroke, I would think carefully before fitting the squirters.
It was never mentioned to me at the time, I only discovered how little room there is in there when I started putting it together.

Some fouled on the cranks counter balance weights/webs, the piston skirts, and the side of the rods during rotation, and I'm only at 3.825" stroke. If you were longer it would be even worse.
I tried to clearance as best as possible...but I know I dont have enough, and fully expect some to have broken off inside if I take it apart again. It really is damn tight in there. I should have had more patience and clearanced more from the pistons and bend them up that way a bit more but I was just pissed off and said fk it.

If doing it again, I'd probably just consider the LSA block with them already fitted, but when I bought the block I did so I wouldnt need to buy new pistons as well.

None of the above is really the fault of AES, its just there is so little room for the squirters. But I and many others have had lots of issues with AES and would not trust them with anything.

I'm sure any decent machine shop should be able to do the install though, as it looks fairly simple

Basically just mill a flat platform and drill up into the main oil galleries, and tap out M10. Obviously the flat platform would need to be a specific height

Shame about the issues. That looks like really good block preparation though? I'd have no chance with my 4.25" stroker crank then?

What is the max boost for an LSA block?

[stevieturbo]

fastbikes76 said:

Yup, thats the run. Very fast car you have there mate ! what sort of power you running now ?

No idea...but those very aerodynamic GTR's with 13-1400hp werent that far ahead at the 1km.....versus my 35 year old brick LOL

MyM8V8 said:

Shame about the issues. That looks like really good block preparation though? I'd have no chance with my 4.25" stroker crank then?

What is the max boost for an LSA block?

TBH, all they did to the block was hone it to 5thou, and fit the squirters. I think they machined the decks too. They also damaged it badly around where two oil holes are at the rear sump face with me having to weld and machine it flat again.
It did not happen during shipping, as it was very well packaged and cant see how it could have got damaged.
But yea the work they did do, does seem to be a good standard. It's their customer service that is bloody awful....and I'm certainly not alone.

Certainly there would be no way ever those squirters would fit with that big crank. You may be able to make squirters by other means, but not like these ones. I seen Kurt mention he has previously drilled through the main journals to direct an oil jet to the piston underside, this would need quite accurate machining though. Not sure what he did for an actual nozzle though.

As for boost/block, no idea, it isnt really a way of measuring how strong a block is. I think the LSA is probably one of the stronger ones though, plus I think it also uses larger 12mm head bolts which cant be a bad thing.
IMO overall setup and tuning has far more to do with reliability than boost alone. Start pushing with higher CR's or timing for any given fuel/boost combo, and that's where the risks lie. Always keep them well away from detonation and they'll thank you for it.

I had tried to get the ARP CA625's for this build, but seems they are almost impossible to get hold of, ordered and paid for from two places, first charged me and never supplied ( AES ), eventually I got a refund from them, and ordered elsewhere. Again months passed and nothing to show so had to get another refund. Losing out a few quid both times for paypal charges and exchange rates

If I have HG problems or take it apart again, I'll just convert to 1/2" studs instead. Apparently Dodge Viper head studs are the kit to use so would be readily available and fairly cheap.
It seems to have held together ok at the though despite using silly boost at the weekend, which I'm actually pretty surprised at.