New Mustang how will it compare?
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The chart illustrates the peak performance the driver will feel in each gear. So though higher than with the Monaro it will be occurring at a lower speed.
Low to mid range acceleration is what matters in our 70 mph limited world so the shorter geared Mustang gives more scope to play.
With Premium coupes and saloons pushing 550 BHP, I doubt traction is an issue with a mere 400 in good conditions. Certainly my Monaro experience is it would benefit from a shorter 1st and easily cope with it. When I changed the box 1st dropped 49 to 44 mph @ 6000 rpm and I would say 40 mph would not be too short.
The Mustang is good value and can only get better as prices will presumably drop once the initial demand is satisfied. Remember the 04 CV8 dropped 28650 to 26650 when the 05 came out, and this dropped 30K to 24K when Vauxhall got left with a paddock full of them. VXRs dropped 37 to 31K. Early adopters like me payed a premium but I don't regret it.
The Australian dollar has dropped massively against the US and £ over the last year, so VXR8s and Maloos should be 35K now to.
Come on Autocar lets see a proper instrumented road test.
Low to mid range acceleration is what matters in our 70 mph limited world so the shorter geared Mustang gives more scope to play.
With Premium coupes and saloons pushing 550 BHP, I doubt traction is an issue with a mere 400 in good conditions. Certainly my Monaro experience is it would benefit from a shorter 1st and easily cope with it. When I changed the box 1st dropped 49 to 44 mph @ 6000 rpm and I would say 40 mph would not be too short.
The Mustang is good value and can only get better as prices will presumably drop once the initial demand is satisfied. Remember the 04 CV8 dropped 28650 to 26650 when the 05 came out, and this dropped 30K to 24K when Vauxhall got left with a paddock full of them. VXRs dropped 37 to 31K. Early adopters like me payed a premium but I don't regret it.
The Australian dollar has dropped massively against the US and £ over the last year, so VXR8s and Maloos should be 35K now to.
Come on Autocar lets see a proper instrumented road test.
[quote=granada203028]The chart illustrates the peak performance the driver will feel in each gear. So though higher than with the Monaro it will be occurring at a lower speed.
Low to mid range acceleration is what matters in our 70 mph limited world so the shorter geared Mustang gives more scope to play.
With Premium coupes and saloons pushing 550 BHP, I doubt traction is an issue with a mere 400 in good conditions. Certainly my Monaro experience is it would benefit from a shorter 1st and easily cope with it. When I changed the box 1st dropped 49 to 44 mph @ 6000 rpm and I would say 40 mph would not be too short.
The Mustang is good value and can only get better as prices will presumably drop once the initial demand is satisfied. Remember the 04 CV8 dropped 28650 to 26650 when the 05 came out, and this dropped 30K to 24K when Vauxhall got left with a paddock full of them. VXRs dropped 37 to 31K. Early adopters like me payed a premium but I don't regret it.
The Australian dollar has dropped massively against the US and £ over the last year, so VXR8s and Maloos should be 35K now to.
Come on Autocar lets see a proper instrumented road test
If Vauxhall sold the VXR8 and the Maloo for £35k, I could be tempted!... well if they restyle the front and rear ends for 2017 that is.
Low to mid range acceleration is what matters in our 70 mph limited world so the shorter geared Mustang gives more scope to play.
With Premium coupes and saloons pushing 550 BHP, I doubt traction is an issue with a mere 400 in good conditions. Certainly my Monaro experience is it would benefit from a shorter 1st and easily cope with it. When I changed the box 1st dropped 49 to 44 mph @ 6000 rpm and I would say 40 mph would not be too short.
The Mustang is good value and can only get better as prices will presumably drop once the initial demand is satisfied. Remember the 04 CV8 dropped 28650 to 26650 when the 05 came out, and this dropped 30K to 24K when Vauxhall got left with a paddock full of them. VXRs dropped 37 to 31K. Early adopters like me payed a premium but I don't regret it.
The Australian dollar has dropped massively against the US and £ over the last year, so VXR8s and Maloos should be 35K now to.
Come on Autocar lets see a proper instrumented road test
If Vauxhall sold the VXR8 and the Maloo for £35k, I could be tempted!... well if they restyle the front and rear ends for 2017 that is.
Not had a test drive yet, cars remain in high demand it seams.
Autocar have published a full instrumented road test in the paper magazine, dated 24th February. Outright acceleration just pips the 6.0VXR though in gear it is quite a bit more punchy due to the shorter gearing. It is more accelerative in 3rd than the original CV8 Monaro was in 2nd.
Autocar relatively more impressed with the Monaro 6.0VXR 10 years ago than they are with the Mustang today, reading both tests. A sign I guess of higher standards of today given cars like the Focus ST and the BMW M cars.
Autocar have published a full instrumented road test in the paper magazine, dated 24th February. Outright acceleration just pips the 6.0VXR though in gear it is quite a bit more punchy due to the shorter gearing. It is more accelerative in 3rd than the original CV8 Monaro was in 2nd.
Autocar relatively more impressed with the Monaro 6.0VXR 10 years ago than they are with the Mustang today, reading both tests. A sign I guess of higher standards of today given cars like the Focus ST and the BMW M cars.
There is a guy local to us at work that came in with his Monaro, according to the salesman.
Anyway he came in to look at the 370z that we have and told the salesman he fancies a mustang but does not like the 10 month waiting list.
I did not see this guy, but the salesman showed him my car and said do you fancy one of these, to which he replied I would love one of them.
Anyway he came in to look at the 370z that we have and told the salesman he fancies a mustang but does not like the 10 month waiting list.
I did not see this guy, but the salesman showed him my car and said do you fancy one of these, to which he replied I would love one of them.
ARAF said:
No, but it will, as no other RHD muscle car has been available to the masses in the intervening years.
I think it's flattering, that the Monaro is still used as the benchmark.
I think its only compared due to the V8 I think it's flattering, that the Monaro is still used as the benchmark.
Monaro feels much more cumbersome on the road compared to the Mustang even though weight wise I think the difference is only 11kgs
I think it feels better balanced than the Monaro but then again the Monaro is using 1997 ( Vt ) suspension
Finally got a test drive last week. Reasonably impressed, the engine character is very different to the Monaro. Where as my 05 CV8 is best between 2000 - 5000 rpm, the Mustang is much more peaky ever pulling harder the higher the revs. On WOT you feels subtle steps ups in power as all the trickery gets to work and really pulls above 4000 rpm. The shorter gearing compensates for less response lower down so I would imagine the Mustang is faster than the Monaro in every situation, as the calculations indicate.
Didn't notice anything different in ride/handling/steering so I guess these must be similar to what I'm used to. Brakes did feel a bit more immediate. Lots of bonnet to look over reminiscent of my 73 and the Granadas.
Lead time is now 12 months and some of the colour options have changed. Also some combinations of interior, exterior and option packs are linked and the combinations I tried on the website all looked forbidden. Salesman said sales would be limited to 4000 or something, maybe just scare mongering.
It's wider than the Monaro with just 6 cm theoretical clearance with my garage door (2.14m) even with the mirrors folded. I will have to mod the Monaro with bits of card board and practice...
When my brother and I turned up for the test drive we were told an online check of our driving history was required requiring our national insurance numbers. So I had to phone a colleague at work to look on my pay slip in a draw and my brother got it off a tax related website. As we are twins we have consecutive numbers.
So I'm pondering the potential purchase.
Didn't notice anything different in ride/handling/steering so I guess these must be similar to what I'm used to. Brakes did feel a bit more immediate. Lots of bonnet to look over reminiscent of my 73 and the Granadas.
Lead time is now 12 months and some of the colour options have changed. Also some combinations of interior, exterior and option packs are linked and the combinations I tried on the website all looked forbidden. Salesman said sales would be limited to 4000 or something, maybe just scare mongering.
It's wider than the Monaro with just 6 cm theoretical clearance with my garage door (2.14m) even with the mirrors folded. I will have to mod the Monaro with bits of card board and practice...
When my brother and I turned up for the test drive we were told an online check of our driving history was required requiring our national insurance numbers. So I had to phone a colleague at work to look on my pay slip in a draw and my brother got it off a tax related website. As we are twins we have consecutive numbers.
So I'm pondering the potential purchase.
granada203028 said:
Finally got a test drive last week. Reasonably impressed, the engine character is very different to the Monaro. Where as my 05 CV8 is best between 2000 - 5000 rpm, the Mustang is much more peaky ever pulling harder the higher the revs. On WOT you feels subtle steps ups in power as all the trickery gets to work and really pulls above 4000 rpm. The shorter gearing compensates for less response lower down so I would imagine the Mustang is faster than the Monaro in every situation, as the calculations indicate.
Didn't notice anything different in ride/handling/steering so I guess these must be similar to what I'm used to. Brakes did feel a bit more immediate. Lots of bonnet to look over reminiscent of my 73 and the Granadas.
Lead time is now 12 months and some of the colour options have changed. Also some combinations of interior, exterior and option packs are linked and the combinations I tried on the website all looked forbidden. Salesman said sales would be limited to 4000 or something, maybe just scare mongering.
It's wider than the Monaro with just 6 cm theoretical clearance with my garage door (2.14m) even with the mirrors folded. I will have to mod the Monaro with bits of card board and practice...
When my brother and I turned up for the test drive we were told an online check of our driving history was required requiring our national insurance numbers. So I had to phone a colleague at work to look on my pay slip in a draw and my brother got it off a tax related website. As we are twins we have consecutive numbers.
So I'm pondering the potential purchase.
Lot of car for the money , multi valve engines like to be revved & are stronger generally up top Didn't notice anything different in ride/handling/steering so I guess these must be similar to what I'm used to. Brakes did feel a bit more immediate. Lots of bonnet to look over reminiscent of my 73 and the Granadas.
Lead time is now 12 months and some of the colour options have changed. Also some combinations of interior, exterior and option packs are linked and the combinations I tried on the website all looked forbidden. Salesman said sales would be limited to 4000 or something, maybe just scare mongering.
It's wider than the Monaro with just 6 cm theoretical clearance with my garage door (2.14m) even with the mirrors folded. I will have to mod the Monaro with bits of card board and practice...
When my brother and I turned up for the test drive we were told an online check of our driving history was required requiring our national insurance numbers. So I had to phone a colleague at work to look on my pay slip in a draw and my brother got it off a tax related website. As we are twins we have consecutive numbers.
So I'm pondering the potential purchase.
Much better on road than the Monaro by far I thought
Just order one
Bit of a resurrection, thought this would appeal to some:
Based on this pic, I think it's safe to say the PH Mustang was car number 99:
So it's public knowledge what times they ran:
First run:
Second run:
Third run:
Fourth run:
Those 60' times give some credence to the notion that burnouts on street tyres don't help much. That or it was some deliberate fast and furious showboating spinning the wheels all the way down the track
For reference, it's an American website, so the date format is arse backwards, 04/03 is 'April 3rd' as they say
Based on this pic, I think it's safe to say the PH Mustang was car number 99:
So it's public knowledge what times they ran:
First run:
Second run:
Third run:
Fourth run:
Those 60' times give some credence to the notion that burnouts on street tyres don't help much. That or it was some deliberate fast and furious showboating spinning the wheels all the way down the track
For reference, it's an American website, so the date format is arse backwards, 04/03 is 'April 3rd' as they say
SturdyHSV said:
Bit of a resurrection, thought this would appeal to some:
Based on this pic, I think it's safe to say the PH Mustang was car number 99:
So it's public knowledge what times they ran:
First run:
Second run:
Third run:
Fourth run:
Those 60' times give some credence to the notion that burnouts on street tyres don't help much. That or it was some deliberate fast and furious showboating spinning the wheels all the way down the track
For reference, it's an American website, so the date format is arse backwards, 04/03 is 'April 3rd' as they say
First On Retard Day!Based on this pic, I think it's safe to say the PH Mustang was car number 99:
So it's public knowledge what times they ran:
First run:
Second run:
Third run:
Fourth run:
Those 60' times give some credence to the notion that burnouts on street tyres don't help much. That or it was some deliberate fast and furious showboating spinning the wheels all the way down the track
For reference, it's an American website, so the date format is arse backwards, 04/03 is 'April 3rd' as they say
Had the same with a Nissan GTR he was gutted I left him the three times he tried, he was paddling down coming up along side of me, both flooring and said bye bye each time, loved it 
was speeds from 60 to about 140 he would have had me every time from a standing start I guess and top end.
was speeds from 60 to about 140 he would have had me every time from a standing start I guess and top end.raving said:
MyM8V8 said:
How did it compare?
Well I met one on a German Autobahn at the weekend in my VF ute and it couldn't keep up!
Donner und Blitzen!
He still had 6k change in his pocket though ;-)Well I met one on a German Autobahn at the weekend in my VF ute and it couldn't keep up!
Donner und Blitzen!
Edited by MyM8V8 on Wednesday 18th May 18:45
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