YT Supercharger Kit???

YT Supercharger Kit???

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MedwayMonaro

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1,895 posts

138 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Just looking around and seeing what's what, and saw this:

http://store.yellaterra.com.au/holden-v8-ls-5-7l-6...

Not looking to do this anytime soon, but has anyone ever seen/used/fitted one of these on their Monaro?

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

183 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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A 2.9 whipple is way bigger than your stock motor will ever need.

You'd be better off buying in the UK. Returns and warranty issues are more readily rsolved. The price won't be much different.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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And I'm sure it won't fit under the bonnet of a VXR8, let alone a Monaro.

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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wormus said:
And I'm sure it won't fit under the bonnet of a VXR8, let alone a Monaro.
I always find it helps to read things smile

"All 2.9L kits fit under the factory bonnet"

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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ringram said:
I always find it helps to read things smile

"All 2.9L kits fit under the factory bonnet"
Christ rides a bike, I thought you were dead?

...seriously doubt it does by the way. Roger had a whipple 2.9 for Poshboy's R8 and it never did fit. Mine has LSA heads and with a 2300 TVS, needs bits cut out of the bonnet. If I could have had one I would have.


Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 12th February 23:07

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

183 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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ringram said:
I always find it helps to read things smile

"All 2.9L kits fit under the factory bonnet"
Case of doing your own research I'd say wink

Let's see more postings from you Richard...

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Would love a Whipple. So cool. Might be getting a Camaro bonnet vent so clearance wouldn't be an issue.

M11 MFP

687 posts

193 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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R Ingram said:
I always find it helps to read things smile
Wormus said:
Christ rides a bike, I thought you were dead?
The Lazarus Taxon.




Edited by M11 MFP on Saturday 13th February 17:32

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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wormus said:
Christ rides a bike, I thought you were dead?

...seriously doubt it does by the way. Roger had a whipple 2.9 for Poshboy's R8 and it never did fit. Mine has LSA heads and with a 2300 TVS, needs bits cut out of the bonnet. If I could have had one I would have.


Edited by wormus on Friday 12th February 23:07
Whether the blower fits depends on the fitting kit really.

Maybe YT have just figured it out to make it all fit ? The wording maybe a little vague...entry level, under bonnet.

Dont see any actual release date for this, presumably it is new ? Or had it been around for a while ?

M11 MFP

687 posts

193 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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stevieturbo said:
Whether the blower fits depends on the fitting kit really.
Looks the same as setup as those where the pulley would foul, on a monaro at least. Not quite sure what is different to prevent that being the case.

raving

1,183 posts

190 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Marks workshop did whipple conversions years ago

I ve got one in box on shelf here brand new

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Would this one fit the LSA? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chevy-SS-2014-2015-LS3-W...

Designed for LS3. If not will look for a Camaro one to add to the list.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
Would this one fit the LSA? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chevy-SS-2014-2015-LS3-W...

Designed for LS3. If not will look for a Camaro one to add to the list.
If the head ports are correct shape for you, then yes.

As to whether it will fit whatever vehicle you have without work, is another matter

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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stevieturbo said:
R8VXF said:
Would this one fit the LSA? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chevy-SS-2014-2015-LS3-W...

Designed for LS3. If not will look for a Camaro one to add to the list.
If the head ports are correct shape for you, then yes.

As to whether it will fit whatever vehicle you have without work, is another matter
Gen-f GTS which is basically the same vehicle isn't it? I don't care about bonnet clearance as that will be sorted by then anyway. Are the LSA ports the same as the LS3? That was my question.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
Gen-f GTS which is basically the same vehicle isn't it? I don't care about bonnet clearance as that will be sorted by then anyway. Are the LSA ports the same as the LS3? That was my question.
This would suggest they are the same, although there may be a locatng dowel that is i a different location...so will depend if the blower base uses it.

Cant imagine it being critical anyway, it could be removed


http://www.lingenfelter.com/sites/lpe/files/attach...


R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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stevieturbo said:
This would suggest they are the same, although there may be a locatng dowel that is i a different location...so will depend if the blower base uses it.

Cant imagine it being critical anyway, it could be removed


http://www.lingenfelter.com/sites/lpe/files/attach...
Cool beans. Now just need to work out what the biggest Whipple I can fit under the Camaro vent is....

For some reason I really prefer S/C to S/T/C to give it its official name. And for higher power screw beats roots! (Try telling that to an Aussie and see whether he can keep a straight face rofl)

I really do not understand people going down the really complicated path of turbo vs big whipple to not need to cut their bonnet up a bit.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
Cool beans. Now just need to work out what the biggest Whipple I can fit under the Camaro vent is....

For some reason I really prefer S/C to S/T/C to give it its official name. And for higher power screw beats roots! (Try telling that to an Aussie and see whether he can keep a straight face rofl)

I really do not understand people going down the really complicated path of turbo vs big whipple to not need to cut their bonnet up a bit.
Turbo install is only complicated if you make it complicated. You could say same for a Whipple or indeed any power adder install.

And no sense fitting the biggest blower possible unless the rest of the package can make use of it. I'd say the 2900 would be ample for most people.

Although the screw blowers have generally been quiet the past few years on any forums I view. Kenne Bell in the US used to be very popular, I havent even seen them mentioned for a few years now.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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stevieturbo said:
Turbo install is only complicated if you make it complicated. You could say same for a Whipple or indeed any power adder install.

And no sense fitting the biggest blower possible unless the rest of the package can make use of it. I'd say the 2900 would be ample for most people.

Although the screw blowers have generally been quiet the past few years on any forums I view. Kenne Bell in the US used to be very popular, I havent even seen them mentioned for a few years now.
But this is what confuses me stevie. You had to work out how to mount your turbos down low and associated exhaust tubery and intercooler on the grenada, why not just a big screw on top?

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
But this is what confuses me stevie. You had to work out how to mount your turbos down low and associated exhaust tubery and intercooler on the grenada, why not just a big screw on top?
Been covered many times.

Firstly charge cooling with any valley style blower will always be more difficult and less efficient than a large A2A normally associated with either a centri or turbo install.

None of the bigger valley style units would easily fit under my bonnet without cutting...no way was I doing that

And a Screw or indeed Rootes style blower setup making north of 1k would just yield insane amounts of torque at low rpm. That can make things useless and torque is a killer of everything, even more so the lower in the rpm range it is produced. At only 5-600hp I've always said a Valley style blower is the best option, once you start going much over that it's a little less clear which is best. For much bigger numbers I'd always steer away from that design.

However...if I had a huge truck or something used for lots of towing etc...then again that torque may well be very welcome. But I dont have either.

And really mounting the turbos down low whilst space was tight, was actually much easier than expected and certainly exhaust/boost plumbing very easy. Oil lines require a little more effort but still nothing major.

I actually build pretty much the entire twin turbo kit with the Vortech blower still attached and in the car, so if I wanted I could have retained both, but that would have been more complicated.
I used the came intercooler, albeit modified the end tank to allow 2 pipes to enter it where there used to be 1.
I used same oil drain location from the Vortech for my turbos. So it really was fairly easy.

And eventually moving to turbos....another reason for doing so was noise. I wanted the car to be quieter than it was with the Vortech, so another style of blower wasnt really for me.

So there are far more reasons for me to not use a Valley style, than there ever would be to use one for what I wanted. Which is also the very reason I opted for a Centri in the first place some 10-12 years ago when I first fitted the Vortech

I think back then the only place really offering the Whipple was Starr Performance in Aus but there were so few reports and info about it I wasnt going to be taking any risks.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
Cool beans. Now just need to work out what the biggest Whipple I can fit under the Camaro vent is....

For some reason I really prefer S/C to S/T/C to give it its official name. And for higher power screw beats roots! (Try telling that to an Aussie and see whether he can keep a straight face rofl)

I really do not understand people going down the really complicated path of turbo vs big whipple to not need to cut their bonnet up a bit.
Your limiting factor will be pistons. If you want more power fit a different cam, injectors and turn the boost up a bit, you should get fairly close to 670 fwhp on stock internals.

As previously stated, the reason I have Poshboy's old TVS2300 on my car is after blowing his up, he tried to fit a 2.9 whipple. However the thing was huge and wouldn't fit under the bonnet. Too much torque also makes traction a problem and I'd say over 800 hp, you are better off with turbos. It's a slippery slope though if you start messing about with cars, mine's on its 4th engine.