Monaro AP discs

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578HSV

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184 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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I need a pair of AP Racing front discs ( just the discs , as they are bolt on to the bells ). Would any of you guys know the AP part numbers for these items and more importantly if there is supplier other than AP Racing ?

Cheers

Gaz

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

182 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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I'm betting they don't come in any cheaper than buying from Monkfish and you'll be buying from abroad.

You could try using Range Rover discs (from the 2004 shape). They are very similar and are meant to fit with little effort. Best of all they're a fraction of the price. I'll be trying this myself next time, so I need someone to do all the development work

beer

578HSV

Original Poster:

184 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Cheers Arnie, are we talking just the rotors ?

Gaz

stevieturbo

17,229 posts

246 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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578HSV said:
I need a pair of AP Racing front discs ( just the discs , as they are bolt on to the bells ). Would any of you guys know the AP part numbers for these items and more importantly if there is supplier other than AP Racing ?

Cheers

Gaz
Most companies will make discs...AP, Alcon, Brembo, Performance Friction...but all will carry similar prices. And TBH race discs for road use arent really teh best option.

Give Martin at Reyland a shout, he has a range of cheaper discs and will be able to supply some to suit.

http://www.reyland.co.uk/discs/

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

182 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Just the rotors. Like I say, I haven't tried it myself, just a rumour I'd heard. Maybe Mr. Raving can compare them?

raving

1,183 posts

189 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Walkinshaw , Ap are on licence I think for the Monaro ones

Some of these other companies are just supplying 5 series Bmw or such like & machine the middle out of them

2woody

919 posts

209 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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yes - L322 Range Rover are a straight swap - I have been using them on mine for some time now.

diameter, thickness, offset, etc all pretty much spot-on. The centre spigot hole on the RR is slightly larger, so you can either dowel them to the hub or get a small spacer made.

best of all, they start from £32.50 in the aftermarket.

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

182 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Hi Woody - Is it just the fronts, rears or both that work? Also, when I was looking into this, it looked like the discs were smaller in diameter. Is this the case and, if so, does it make a difference?

Thanks smile

j666eds

642 posts

148 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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ArnieVXR said:
Hi Woody - Is it just the fronts, rears or both that work? Also, when I was looking into this, it looked like the discs were smaller in diameter. Is this the case and, if so, does it make a difference?

Thanks smile
I had a quick look earlier on eurocarparts. The ones that looked like they would fit were the rangerover sport with the 4.2 supercharged engine, that was the fronts, they were 360mm rather than 363mm that the AP's are.

bonesxu1

440 posts

186 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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I bought my discs from Reyland motorsport and have had no problems with them, lots of different sizes to choose from and Martin is very knowledgeable when it comes to motorsport stuff.

2woody

919 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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ArnieVXR said:
Hi Woody - Is it just the fronts, rears or both that work? Also, when I was looking into this, it looked like the discs were smaller in diameter. Is this the case and, if so, does it make a difference?

Thanks smile
Just fronts, I'm afraid.

I'm working on the rears, but the handbrake shoe size is a bit unusual

I use the 360mm discs - there's a drawing on the Brembo website if you want a look !

The "missing" 3mm is of no consequence as of course the caliper is still in the same place - there's full pad coverage

MedwayMonaro

1,888 posts

137 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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2woody said:
ArnieVXR said:
Hi Woody - Is it just the fronts, rears or both that work? Also, when I was looking into this, it looked like the discs were smaller in diameter. Is this the case and, if so, does it make a difference?

Thanks smile
Just fronts, I'm afraid.

I'm working on the rears, but the handbrake shoe size is a bit unusual

I use the 360mm discs - there's a drawing on the Brembo website if you want a look !

The "missing" 3mm is of no consequence as of course the caliper is still in the same place - there's full pad coverage
Have you got a photo of the dowel or spacer to make up the difference in the spigot hole? Cheers

j666eds

642 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Does anyone make a caliper spacer so that i can fit bigger discs to the ap bell?

2woody

919 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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you'll run out of wheel rim and/or tyre space if you go any bigger.

in any case, its hard to imagine why you'd want better brakes - I've yet to find anything to outbrake me on the thousands of track-day laps I've done with these

2woody

919 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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MedwayMonaro said:
2woody said:
ArnieVXR said:
Hi Woody - Is it just the fronts, rears or both that work? Also, when I was looking into this, it looked like the discs were smaller in diameter. Is this the case and, if so, does it make a difference?

Thanks smile
Just fronts, I'm afraid.

I'm working on the rears, but the handbrake shoe size is a bit unusual

I use the 360mm discs - there's a drawing on the Brembo website if you want a look !

The "missing" 3mm is of no consequence as of course the caliper is still in the same place - there's full pad coverage
Have you got a photo of the dowel or spacer to make up the difference in the spigot hole? Cheers
I could maybe get you a couple made - they're re simple laser-cut blanks. But in any case, i'll look up the sizes tonight.....

j666eds

642 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I have different wheels with a lot of gap round the brakes. Dont need it for stopping, it does that extremely well already, just looks.

MedwayMonaro

1,888 posts

137 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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2woody said:
MedwayMonaro said:
2woody said:
ArnieVXR said:
Hi Woody - Is it just the fronts, rears or both that work? Also, when I was looking into this, it looked like the discs were smaller in diameter. Is this the case and, if so, does it make a difference?

Thanks smile
Just fronts, I'm afraid.

I'm working on the rears, but the handbrake shoe size is a bit unusual

I use the 360mm discs - there's a drawing on the Brembo website if you want a look !

The "missing" 3mm is of no consequence as of course the caliper is still in the same place - there's full pad coverage
Have you got a photo of the dowel or spacer to make up the difference in the spigot hole? Cheers
I could maybe get you a couple made - they're re simple laser-cut blanks. But in any case, i'll look up the sizes tonight.....
Great, thank you.

2woody

919 posts

209 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Apologies - forgot to look it up last night.....

centring spacer details :-

O.D. 79.0mm
I.D. 71.6mm
Thickness 8.0mm

and you may need to grind a very small chamfer on the inside, depending if your hub has much of a "run-out" on it.

have fun

MyM8V8

9,456 posts

194 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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j666eds said:
I have different wheels with a lot of gap round the brakes. Dont need it for stopping, it does that extremely well already, just looks.
If they work well, why add unsprung weight to the set up. That (UW)and extra rotating mass will detract from performance and handling.

2Woody. Great info, thanks I will be trying that when it comes to changing. Dealers wont be best pleased though.


Edited by MyM8V8 on Wednesday 20th July 18:22

MedwayMonaro

1,888 posts

137 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Thank you for this, great info.