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Building an exhaust

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Behold81

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2,931 posts

169 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Behold81 said:
That is true but a h-pipe does give some of it back. And helps the more oldschool some. But so does a cam.
Interesting point on the wrap. That's tempting to do.

But do you not risk cracking them?

stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Behold81 said:
Becaus the Renault 5 was untaxed , no mot and uninsured

I proved tax as this was when we still had them on the screen. I had the mot in the car as it was done earlier that week. I explains the tax was only 2 days old and I would have needed insurance. He was adamant I was lying and his DB was accurate.

Then he told me this is a blue Renault 5 and I burst out laughing.
He did not like that! Only just mot'd I knew he would find nothing in the car so I mildly mocked his car knowledge. His partner found that funny!
TBH that sort of thing should be reported as harassment. And there should be zero tolerance to incompetence from the police like that

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Behold81 said:
MyM8V8 said:
That's more to do with the firing order which is not old school V8.

Old 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2

LS's 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3.
That is true but a h-pipe does give some of it back. And helps the more oldschool some. But so does a cam.
Its a matter of opinion, of course, but nothing (i.e lots) I have tried over the years on LS motors has been able to replicate the old burble. Older HSVs had H pipes as standard, made no difference. I agree X pipes make the exhaust tone more "raspy".

Behold81

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169 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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stevieturbo said:
TBH that sort of thing should be reported as harassment. And there should be zero tolerance to incompetence from the police like that
It did get close to that. but being a arse back to him with out being over the line is fun too! but I have reported officers in the past for just this kind of pointless time wasting.

My favourite play is asking them to hold on, go to the car and grab a pen and paper and walk round their car inspecting it. they get quite arsy over it and start telling me that I have no right. I tell them that they are pulling me over for no reason and trying to pin something on me. So I'm in my right to make sure they are fully road legal to fine/prosecute.

Most of the time they finish up quickly just move on and say I think we are done here. biggrin

I do hate time wasters.

mfp4073

1,943 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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I think you have to understand that the police have to deal with total lying Pri*ks every shift. Like it or not sometimes it gets the better of them.Giving the police a hard time is not a good plan.
Don't forget most tossers they deal with really are up to something.

John

raving

1,183 posts

190 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Most of them are bell ends

Behold81

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2,931 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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mfp4073 said:
I think you have to understand that the police have to deal with total lying Pri*ks every shift. Like it or not sometimes it gets the better of them.Giving the police a hard time is not a good plan.
Don't forget most tossers they deal with really are up to something.

John
I disagree I should accept that I can be treated like that. He told me I was lying about having insurance and having an mot and that my tax disk being a few days old proved very little. Had he used just a small level of knowledge he would have known his ANPR was wrong. Even if he was that bad with cars (for a traffic controller seeing cars all day) he has eyes to check the ANPR vs my actual number plate.

He ran a check 3 times one via radio and still failed because he trusted the ANPR. Had he not mentioned the make model he thought it was he would have impounded my car for no reason and wasted a lot of taxpayers money and police time.

It's not the first time I have been pulled for no reason or because a officer wants to boost his ego or numbers.

I have been either pulled myself or in the car for so many dumb reasons.

Fog lights being on on a foggy night
Accused for walking away when we parked up and no lights or siren to say he was pulling us
Not wearing a seatbelt and being told we put it in. (Beige belt on beige suit)
Pulled when not even driving and accused for being a white cavalier driving at speed with lights off (we were in a gold Carlton!)
Overtaking a officer at 60 on a overtaking lane
Being nearly hit by a copper in the wrong lane on the roundabout. (Him not me had to take him to the roundabout to show markings!)
Full strip down and drug search for not having a wallet on you.


The list could go on

So no most do not earn any respect.

But if they have a reasonable purpose to stop and keep to the point I will not take the piss.

raving

1,183 posts

190 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Behold81 said:
I disagree I should accept that I can be treated like that. He told me I was lying about having insurance and having an mot and that my tax disk being a few days old proved very little. Had he used just a small level of knowledge he would have known his ANPR was wrong. Even if he was that bad with cars (for a traffic controller seeing cars all day) he has eyes to check the ANPR vs my actual number plate.

He ran a check 3 times one via radio and still failed because he trusted the ANPR. Had he not mentioned the make model he thought it was he would have impounded my car for no reason and wasted a lot of taxpayers money and police time.

It's not the first time I have been pulled for no reason or because a officer wants to boost his ego or numbers.

I have been either pulled myself or in the car for so many dumb reasons.

Fog lights being on on a foggy night
Accused for walking away when we parked up and no lights or siren to say he was pulling us
Not wearing a seatbelt and being told we put it in. (Beige belt on beige suit)
Pulled when not even driving and accused for being a white cavalier driving at speed with lights off (we were in a gold Carlton!)
Overtaking a officer at 60 on a overtaking lane
Being nearly hit by a copper in the wrong lane on the roundabout. (Him not me had to take him to the roundabout to show markings!)
Full strip down and drug search for not having a wallet on you.


The list could go on

So no most do not earn any respect.

But if they have a reasonable purpose to stop and keep to the point I will not take the piss.
Like I said most are bell ends

mfp4073

1,943 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Well guy's we have to agree to disagree, I think it all depends on which side of the fence you experience the world.

regards John

Behold81

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2,931 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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mfp4073 said:
Well guy's we have to agree to disagree, I think it all depends on which side of the fence you experience the world.

regards John
That's fair enough. I respect that is your view. Even if it's wrong! laugh

stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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mfp4073 said:
I think you have to understand that the police have to deal with total lying Pri*ks every shift. Like it or not sometimes it gets the better of them.Giving the police a hard time is not a good plan.
Don't forget most tossers they deal with really are up to something.

John
True, but in police training should they not teach or at least encourage the police not to lie ? Then they wouldnt have to deal with so many pricks during every shift, at least then they would only have to deal with the public who may tell the occasional lie.

That still doesnt tackle the utter incompetence many police officers exhibit...which again you'd think should have been covered during training etc.

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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mfp4073 said:
I think you have to understand that the police have to deal with total lying Pri*ks every shift. Like it or not sometimes it gets the better of them.Giving the police a hard time is not a good plan.
Don't forget most tossers they deal with really are up to something.

John
Have to agree with this. I always find it best to just be courteous and move on.

From your previous comments I wonder if you are on some kind of list for giving them a hard time?

Behold81

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169 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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MyM8V8 said:
Have to agree with this. I always find it best to just be courteous and move on.

From your previous comments I wonder if you are on some kind of list for giving them a hard time?
Unlikely as some have either been in a car not registered to me or still registered under the previous owner at the time of being pulled. Or as a passenger. Not all are me being pulled.

Most are really late at night when they are bored I swear.


Bobs CV8

20 posts

106 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Having driven for over 20 years I have only ever been stopped by the police 3 times I think. Once I got a ticket and I was speeding. The other times they have just been checks. Sorted in minutes. Most police are far to busy dealing with fools to know a lot about traffic law. It's complex and most of the time it's not used at a domestic.
Your car is rare, they won't know what it is give the poor bugger a chance, put aside your unfortunate meetings with them and consider the people who are trying to keep you safe from everything that's out there with nothing more than a stick some spray and a healthy dollop of faith.

Wolfracer

2,074 posts

206 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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If you know the law inside out, you know how to bend the law just the right amount. You also know how to use technicalities to your own advantage. You can also find easy targets to fill your day and get your weekly brownie points.
I once accelerated away from a cross roads in the early hours of the morning. A cop on the opposite set of lights stuck his blues on and came tearing down the road after me.
He said "I've had to do nearly 80 mile an hour to catch up with you. You were speeding"
I wasn't as there are cameras on that stretch. After I agreed with him that yes, if he had set off later than me then obviously he would have to travel faster than me in order to catch up, he did a check on the car, then asked to see my licence.
I was in factory overalls at the time. I said yes, no problem, I'll get it out my briefcase... "briefcase?" He said puzzled
yes, briefcase, I'm a recruitment manager...

"Well that all seems fine sir, sorry to have troiubled you... you understand we have to do these checks and it did look like you were going some, anyway good day..."

WTF?
Talk about judging a book eh?

I have lots more stories, but more for around a camp fire with close friends than on an open forum.

Behold81

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2,931 posts

169 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Wolfracer said:
If you know the law inside out, you know how to bend the law just the right amount. You also know how to use technicalities to your own advantage. You can also find easy targets to fill your day and get your weekly brownie points.
I once accelerated away from a cross roads in the early hours of the morning. A cop on the opposite set of lights stuck his blues on and came tearing down the road after me.
He said "I've had to do nearly 80 mile an hour to catch up with you. You were speeding"
I wasn't as there are cameras on that stretch. After I agreed with him that yes, if he had set off later than me then obviously he would have to travel faster than me in order to catch up, he did a check on the car, then asked to see my licence.
I was in factory overalls at the time. I said yes, no problem, I'll get it out my briefcase... "briefcase?" He said puzzled
yes, briefcase, I'm a recruitment manager...

"Well that all seems fine sir, sorry to have troiubled you... you understand we have to do these checks and it did look like you were going some, anyway good day..."

WTF?
Talk about judging a book eh?

Yes full details of my stories are for a camp fire?

I have lots more stories, but more for around a camp fire with close friends than on an open forum.

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

200 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Ive been building a system,mainly because ive been wanting to learn tig welding,and as on gts no26 someone saw fit to go 2x 2.5 into 1x 2.5 pipe,which im sure isnt the best. There is original cats and no boxes at present,and its not madly loud..

Ive finished the front section,which will bolt to the hsv headers. Its 2.5" with 200 cell 4" cats (ive had decatted cars and dont like the smell ) and v-bands just after the x section, so I can change the rear part of the system,and ill make up a silenced rear,straight through and side exits, so I can choose the level of sillyness/noise dependent on track noise limit or airport run or full hoon.

Front section




Ive started the Rear section with 2x 2.5 this'll exit at the back when finished,then i'll do the silenced one and probably silly side exits over winter.



Ive welded with mig and oxy plenty, so tig was new to me,but im doing ok. No they arent back purged,but im not garanteeing this for life !!







stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Problem with not backpurging...is the crap that will build up inside the pipe.

I'd have just MIG'd that

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

200 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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stevieturbo said:
Problem with not backpurging...is the crap that will build up inside the pipe.

I'd have just MIG'd that
I could have migged it, but the whole point of the exercise was to learn tig welding.

Behold81

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2,931 posts

169 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Looks good. I'm mig welding mine with stainless wire. Got other issues to sort first!