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mfp4073

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1,946 posts

174 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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I dropped my Monaro off at the fish yesterday for a clutch with the usual bits to go with it.
Now, if the gear box is OK I will replace the suspension, with either pedders low, or xa coilovers ,but with a softer rear spring.
Has anyone had this done?

John

jet_noise

5,648 posts

182 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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What about the shocks? You need better (even just new will make a difference) shocks if you're putting Pedders on IMHO.
I had Pedders lows on my Monaro when bought. I found them a bit too low for sensible negotiating of sleeping policemen, also a little harsh. I (meaning the 'fish) swapped them (which reminds me they're still in my garage!) for some VXR leftovers they had but kept the Pedders shocks. This was just right for me. YMMV
Can't comment on the coilovers,

regards,
Jet

vxr2010

2,565 posts

159 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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suspension wise its horses for courses , I had the extreme xa coilovers fitted but run the car at standard ride height , from lowering cars in the past every speed bump can be a nightmare when lowered , the ride is firm but car is much more planted and agile , most suspension is a trade off on height v firm v comfort , it's a false economy just doing the springs , you need to do shocks and springs , I have the setting on mine to the softer side of things , mf may let you test drive to see what you think too

MedwayMonaro

1,895 posts

138 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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I've had Monaros with both and can say that with the coilovers, the car handles brilliantly but you will suffer with the ride quality - the adjustable height is a bonus; just remember to have the threads treated with copper slip etc to prevent them from seizing up. I prefer the pedders shocks and springs personally, but my car is a daily driver over bumpy roads.

mfp4073

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Saturday 17th September 2016
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I will be changing the shocks as well,I might go full coil over with a softer rear spring. I don't want a car that scrapes the underside or crashes over bumps ect.
I think the ride height should be set at just below a VXR, possibly with a nice rake to it.

John

mfp4073

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Saturday 17th September 2016
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MedwayMonaro said:
I've had Monaros with both and can say that with the coilovers, the car handles brilliantly but you will suffer with the ride quality - the adjustable height is a bonus; just remember to have the threads treated with copper slip etc to prevent them from seizing up. I prefer the pedders shocks and springs personally, but my car is a daily driver over bumpy roads.
I take it you went for the pedders low set up. I have thought about that but was a bit worried about speed bumps.
My car is a daily driver, so i need to get it right!

John

MedwayMonaro

1,895 posts

138 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Standard springs. Never had an issue with scraping.

Coilovers at standard or just below on soft springs may be OK but I'd opt for Pedders shocks rather than coilovers

Aitch 'H'

192 posts

108 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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mfp4073 said:
I will be changing the shocks as well,I might go full coil over with a softer rear spring. I don't want a car that scrapes the underside or crashes over bumps ect.
I think the ride height should be set at just below a VXR, possibly with a nice rake to it.

John
I've got Pedders low on the back and super low on the front, gives it a nice rake. There's photos of the car on my old thread "my cv8" if you want to see how it looks. You have to be careful on speed humps but it doesn't scrape at all at a reasonable speed (i.e. the speed you're supposed to go over speed humps) as I assume you're not a spotty teenager who likes to race around industrial sites and quiet back roads!!

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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MedwayMonaro said:
Standard springs. Never had an issue with scraping.

Coilovers at standard or just below on soft springs may be OK but I'd opt for Pedders shocks rather than coilovers
I'm biased, but would also go for a conventional set up of springs and shocks. It works well for the road, as long as you don't want to fiddle with ride heights, or rebound and damping settings.

Coilovers are for race cars, which get a lot more regular attention than road cars.

mfp4073

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174 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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Aitch 'H' said:
I've got Pedders low on the back and super low on the front, gives it a nice rake. There's photos of the car on my old thread "my cv8" if you want to see how it looks. You have to be careful on speed humps but it doesn't scrape at all at a reasonable speed (i.e. the speed you're supposed to go over speed humps) as I assume you're not a spotty teenager who likes to race around industrial sites and quiet back roads!!
Well,I wish I was a teenager......spotty or otherwise..
sadly I turned 55 a couple of weeks ago.....oh dear, where does the time go?
Thanks, I will check the photo out.

John

stu vxr

276 posts

107 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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I am 53 love coilovers but I am very particular about ride height always have been, that's not to say I don't like a compliant ride for the road pedders do offer that in my opinion compared to some other coilovers, my Monaro is not a daily conventional set up will always provide best results for a daily in my opinion, just a pity the fish don't have cars with diff set ups to try, it really is a personal choice, whatever you choose though stick with pedders I at first ran with a different make which claimed to fit the Monaro looking back wasn't good, speak with Roger at the fish..

SturdyHSV

10,095 posts

167 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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Another vote here for Pedders springs / dampers.

Having said that, I've not tried coilovers hehe

I've also changed my seats for firmer items, so I think having coilovers would render it uncomfortable on actual roads. Currently it's actually quite a supple car and with the stiffer rear ARB turns in keenly enough for my taste. It's polybushed all round which doubtless helps a bit too.

The difference in body control just replacing the dampers was a big surprise, car felt much more planted.

I now run super low front and low rear, although the rear is slightly spaced to get it sitting how I want it. I too wanted some rake and I didn't want the rear tyre tucked up into the arch, the rear is probably nearly stock height when there's no fuel in hehe

Speed bumps I've not had any big issues with, there are some nasty ones near me though (the huge central mountain kind) which I will take slightly to one side to let a wheel lift the front up and over the peak, but it just looks so much better super low that it's completely worth it.

For me super low on the rear looked like the suspension had collapsed, and made the rear look much lower than the front which I wasn't a fan of.

There is obviously that loss in suspension travel going super low, I've hit the bump stops a few times since having them on which I can only remember maybe doing once on the stock suspension, but that's the sacrifice you make going lower!

vxr2010

2,565 posts

159 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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the added issue of lowering if you have headers they hang lower than standard , as the car is supposed to be sporty i went coilovers and don't regret it , on a normal road it's fine , on another off topic note what idiot decided what words are used for predictive text , I like the idea of my words being corrected but why not a word that's some thing near to the word I was trying to type !!l lol