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oden of valhall

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31 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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What is the differce between the original AC Delco battery and something called GO .Why I want to know is that my original battery has been swapped for a GO at a dealership during a repair,It does not look right .

caspy

1,791 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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GO is the brand name for GM batteries supplied through dealers. No need to worry, they more than up to the job.

oden of valhall

Original Poster:

31 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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But the battery has been modified to fit . I have always driven
Chevys and AC Delco is the original. My CV8 is under warranty how
can they fit this without informing me.My original was nothing wrong
with. I had a drain.The car was away for in all 12 days at a Monaro
dealer.Now that it is back it is flat again. I am really upset.

caspy

1,791 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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Cant help with the rest, sorry. The battery is a legit replacement. Why though, they really should have told you what they had been doing, and if the battery has been modded to fit then it's not the right one. Battery should be AC Delco N50ZLMF - part number 92155123. as original.(05 CV8) If 04 then any change is to be battery to fit spec, there is no part number for replacement. GO batteries i believe are Delphi but rebranded for the UK, but should fit original housing.

>> Edited by caspy on Sunday 29th January 20:16

>> Edited by caspy on Sunday 29th January 20:17

oden of valhall

Original Poster:

31 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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Thanks for taking the time.
What I cannot understand is that the original was examined and
measured by computer nothing was wromg with the battery.Pentagon in Derby has not given any details of their repair .I have never been in
this situation before.Should they not give me my old battery back and
should not the repair be logged on some sort of paper.Even if it is a repair under warranty.Since the car still have the same fault,who do I contact.Sorry about my swe-nglish.
Bjorn

caspy

1,791 posts

237 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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They should log details of repair, even if warranty, and if you want a copy then you should ask. They should not give the old battery back however. Disposal of such things is regulated etc and if it is at fault the bits should be available for inspection by Vauxhall, should they choose to.

DAVE52

262 posts

244 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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My dealer replaced my batt at 30k service said it was leaking,cant say i was too botherd as it cost me zero

raggyman

2,317 posts

244 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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oden of valhall said:
But the battery has been modified to fit . I have always driven
Chevys and AC Delco is the original. My CV8 is under warranty how
can they fit this without informing me.My original was nothing wrong
with. I had a drain.The car was away for in all 12 days at a Monaro
dealer.Now that it is back it is flat again. I am really upset.


Bit lost here... are you talking about a drain on the battery? How long before it goes flat? Perhaps they changed the battery as a course of elimination.

oden of valhall

Original Poster:

31 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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2 issues.
1 battery was tested by AA and there was nothing wrong with it.According to AA there was a drain when ignition was off
normally this current is minute around 0.3 A my "leak" was 3-7 A
this problem was solved by the"Monaro dealer"by putting a new battery in.I am now back to square one i.e the car is on its way to the"Monarodealer" I live out in the sticks = major problem.I was not offered an "We are sorry"! nor a replacement vehicle.
2 a perfectly fine AC Delco battery (£130) was replaced with Vauxhalls budget version GO (£53.76) without asking me.

oden of valhall

Original Poster:

31 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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[quote=caspy]Cant help with the rest, sorry. The battery is a legit replacement. Why though, they really should have told you what they had been doing, and if the battery has been modded to fit then it's not the right one. Battery should be AC Delco N50ZLMF - part number 92155123. as original.(05 CV8) If 04 then any change is to be battery to fit spec, there is no part number for replacement. GO batteries i believe are Delphi but rebranded for the UK, but should fit original housing.

Can anybody tell me where to buy the above mentioned battery N50ZLMF
I want what was in the car when I bought it.AC Delco uk cannot find it in there parts list.Vauxhall uk headoffice cannot help because their
partsdept is not "customerfaced".They took my 30K though!!I do not mind the cost I do not like that GO battery it is partially an emotional thing.I have seen Chevy engines with AC Delco batteries for 30 years.GO hmfff!!!! Dont like it

DAVE52

262 posts

244 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Sorry Oden but it's a battery as long as the car starts holds it's charge, what's in a name.

oden of valhall

Original Poster:

31 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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That is just the problem it does neither.

DAVE52

262 posts

244 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Fine tell them to get it to f--k! My GO started fine this morning but then it was only -10Deg :-)

MalcN

209 posts

226 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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oden of valhall said:
Pentagon in Derby


Think I can see the problem here

(Just based on my own personal experience there)

Malc

oden of valhall

Original Poster:

31 posts

230 months

Saturday 4th February 2006
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Conclusion
My car was "diagnosed" with a major and potentially dangerous fault.
9 cables were so badly corroded that they had made contact.This had not been picked up on the first visit to the "auth dealership"!!!!Instead they fitted a new battery.
Part of the loom had to be changed.My car is now on its way back from Derby and I have to pay for this!!! This has taught me a few things.
Vauxhall does not care anymore about Monaros ,the lack of support from
head office has shown this.
Never believe and trust salespersonel when they say they will take care of you in the future."..... Wales " did not lift a finger when help was needed.
Auth.dealerships do not nec. know anything about Monaros they have paid for the title,2 out of 3 visits have proven this.

Credit where credit is due.Thank you LSV,Picador,A.C Delco and Caspy
for putting up with my questions.You took them seriously and gave some constructive advice.
Thank you Dave52 for your cool and laid back attitude!It is people like you makes life so much easier when a problem arises.Well done

>> Edited by oden of valhall on Saturday 4th February 07:56

DAVE52

262 posts

244 months

Saturday 4th February 2006
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Glad to be of some service

caspy

1,791 posts

237 months

Saturday 4th February 2006
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As a dealer, i think u have painted a broad brush stroke on their attitude towards Monaro's based on one visit. Your bad experience does not mean that a) all dealers are the same and b) that Vauxhall dont care. I appreciate that all entitled to an opinion, but, if the car has failed under warranty then it will be fixed and all reasonable out of pocket expenses covered.

I am sorry that you have had problems, but feel you are being a little harsh. If you have issues with the dealership you have taken car back to, then i would be happy to try and resolve the issues with either them or Vauxhall on your behalf.

booster

717 posts

231 months

Saturday 4th February 2006
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As an ex-BMW owner I can assure you that Vauxhall customer service(with the exception of you Caspy - of course)- sucks.

caspy

1,791 posts

237 months

Saturday 4th February 2006
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booster said:
As an ex-BMW owner I can assure you that Vauxhall customer service(with the exception of you Caspy - of course)- sucks.


Again, a singular opinion. This will go round and round. Each to their own.

booster

717 posts

231 months

Saturday 4th February 2006
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I agree - a singular view, however, there aren't many BMW owners that have gone over to Vauxhall and therefore it is, I agree difficult, to get an objective view of things. However, I still have the right to express that view. It is entirely my own personal experience that I am commenting on and I am sure there are many exceptions - your garage being one of them. Without the Monaro I'm sure (no - convinced) that there would be even less BMW owners sporting a Griffin badge. I've owned all the following Vauxhalls from brand new in the past from various garages in Northampton, Oxfordshire, Herts and Dorset The dealership quality and service was pretty much the same in all locations. I particuarly "enjoyed" my recent 15 minute wait at the Service desk in Poole before anyone spoke to me.
Simple things like that make a HUGE difference. Nothing to do with money - all about attitude.

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