which is the most powerful car out of the two, either HSV or

which is the most powerful car out of the two, either HSV or

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V8HSV

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2,457 posts

253 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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My smart(turbo)or HSV(supercharged)?

Not talking about total output but power/displacement




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Mrs V8 HSV

128 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Interesting question!

Dan_S V8

578 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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hmmm, lets see. Well, your HSV if I am not mistaken is currently making 560bhp, which is pretty close to 570, so thats nearly 100hp/litre. Your smart has a 700cc engine I think? I remember reading somewhere that your's has 112bhp (I could be wrong) which would make it more powerful/litre than your HSV.

stevieturbo

17,270 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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The smart car would probably win hands down on power....

On torque it would be a different matter.

Boosted Ls1

21,188 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Small bores, cyl volumes, faster burn and higher bhp per litre but who'd really want a smart? Wouldn't a cycle be better

Boosted.

V8HSV

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2,457 posts

253 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Think again stevieturbo, the smart is 138 bhp/litre & the HSV 98 bhp/litre, smart 144 ft lbs/litre, HSV 78 ft lbs/litre – so there you have it, the smart whoops the HSV on bhp & torque on displacement comparison!

boosted ls1, I know so many people dis the smart, especially those who have not driven one, they are just a nippy town car but when 'fettled' they can offer a very interesting drive indeed & you would be suprised how it can take cars by suprise, especially the 2 litre variety. I remember the look on a startled S3 driver (his r/v mirror)when I tailgated him on the M3 at over 130 MPH!

Standing starts, forget it, you could run faster, 80-100 a different matter

Check this link, not me but just goes to show:
www.flurl.com/uploaded/Smart_17422.html

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caspy

1,791 posts

237 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Plenty of high revving, high boost engines out there. Dont see the Smart's fettled engine being anything other than the current norm. Whole point about the chevy V8 is that it is lazy in character and comparitively unstressed and therefore less prone to an early termination!!

V8HSV

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2,457 posts

253 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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caspy, I was referring to modified & highly tuned comparisons, not standard cars, if you took my hsv much more on power it would no doubt blow something, the smart has the option of 25% more power but I need a racing clutch fitted first.

high reving? smart limited to 6,200 RPM, in 6th that would = 142 mph

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308mate

13,757 posts

223 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Anyone heard of a Yamaha R6? Do the sums on that one. power/weight, power/displacement, etc etc Still seats two, just shitty climate control.

PB - pointlessly wading into the debate with a bike.

Boosted Ls1

21,188 posts

261 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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V8HSV said:
boosted ls1, I know so many people dis the smart, especially those who have not driven one, they are just a nippy town car but when 'fettled' they can offer a very interesting drive indeed & you would be suprised how it can take cars by suprise, especially the 2 litre variety. Standing starts, forget it, you could run faster, 80-100 a different matter
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V8 hsv, Just teasingmust be quite a difference when switching from one car to the other.

Boosted.

V8HSV

Original Poster:

2,457 posts

253 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Yeah, the hsv is so sluggish round town and the indicator stalk is on the other side LOL

Alright people, silly argument really but I like my smart experience as much as the HSV one, totally different cars in every way, was just suprised how well the performance of the smart is by comparison to obviously a more powerful car.

Yes, I've blown away an R6 before (135 mph) on French soil and the smart would be nowhere in the comparison and fully appreciate a bike will out perform cars on power/displacement & power to weight ratios normally.

I'll shut up about smarts now and appologise for going on so.....

stevieturbo

17,270 posts

248 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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I dont see why a 7-800bhp LS1 cant be classed as reliable, if built properly.

eliot

11,440 posts

255 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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V8HSV said:

Check this link, not me but just goes to show:
www.flurl.com/uploaded/Smart_17422.html



That sounds like a bike engined one to me?

V8HSV

Original Poster:

2,457 posts

253 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Yes thats the bike engined one all right, Co. called Z cars do the conversions in UK, Evo did a road test inc the bike one & the Brabus, Brabus one won even though half the power. Heard about peeps fitting Hiabusa engines where the passenger seat was, someone recently put an MR2 engine in too, quite a few examples with 150+ BHP too.

Well here are a few shots of my smart coupe project, 101.3 ft lbs at the rear wheels at 2,700 RPM with 97.3 BHP at the flywheel at 4,750 RPM. Viper induction air is taken from underneath the car now. Will cruise at 105 MPH with only 700cc engine.






>> Edited by V8HSV on Tuesday 21st February 16:26