supercharger

[Magic919]

jamiep is looking to buy 6.0 VXR and the price difference is not so great.

From Monkfish

Pricing:

Non-Intercooled HH112 Supercharger pac : £5025.93 ; inclusive of fitting, mapping and VAT

Intercooled HH112 Supercharger pac : £6891.15; inclusive of fitting, mapping and VAT

Intercooled HH122* Supercharger pac : £7010.14; inclusive of fitting, mapping and VAT

[swordfishcoupe]

Ah, ok - fair enough. £900 is not too much difference then, LS1 needs intercooler anyway.

Cheers
Steven

[Boosted LS1]

On a side note, anybody noticed the price of used jag 4.2 eaton installations with twin chargecoolers? I have, just figuring how to make use of them

Boosted

[well_fans]

tiler said:

My realy old harrop unit runing 6psi on my cv8 04 had 536bhp and looked much nicer. Lol.

Was that before or after the complete rebuild/new block and hardened internals etc? Maybe it was that extra hp that blew up the engine As for looks at least he isnt running round in that ugly VXR8 you are (or do Wortec have it this week ) and instead is running round in the much much more beautiful Monaro.

[eliot]

Boosted LS1 said:

On a side note, anybody noticed the price of used jag 4.2 eaton installations with twin chargecoolers? I have, just figuring how to make use of them

Boosted

Here's what the cores look like "naked":

[Boosted LS1]

Thanks, pretty cool aren't they. I must say I'm wondering if the Jag set up could be adapted for the chevy engine. I have intake flanges which could be adapted and the chargecoolers are a huge bonus. The jag stuff would need to look 'prettier' though.

Boosted.

[well_fans]

Boosted LS1 said:

Thanks, pretty cool aren't they. I must say I'm wondering if the Jag set up could be adapted for the chevy engine. I have intake flanges which could be adapted and the chargecoolers are a huge bonus. The jag stuff would need to look 'prettier' though.

Boosted.

oh no what has Tiler started, not only are we going to have my charger's bigger than yours we're going to be getting lots more "my charger's shinier/prettier/got more neons than yours" threads

[tiler]

well_fans said:

tiler said:

My realy old harrop unit runing 6psi on my cv8 04 had 536bhp and looked much nicer. Lol.

Was that before or after the complete rebuild/new block and hardened internals etc? Maybe it was that extra hp that blew up the engine As for looks at least he isnt running round in that ugly VXR8 you are (or do Wortec have it this week ) and instead is running round in the much much more beautiful Monaro.

WRONG AGAIN

MARK is the only one to blow any cars up

[well_fans]

tiler said:

well_fans said:

tiler said:

My realy old harrop unit runing 6psi on my cv8 04 had 536bhp and looked much nicer. Lol.

Was that before or after the complete rebuild/new block and hardened internals etc? Maybe it was that extra hp that blew up the engine As for looks at least he isnt running round in that ugly VXR8 you are (or do Wortec have it this week ) and instead is running round in the much much more beautiful Monaro.

WRONG AGAIN

MARK is the only one to blow any cars up

Guess from your reply above you missed the sarcasm in my comment about blowing up the engine with the extra horsepower you were claiming.

So it was after the rebuild then you fitted the Harrop and therefore not a like for like comparison - ie people wont be able to replicate that figure by bolting on a Harrop at 6psi and doing nothing else which is what your original post suggests. If you're going to make comparisons at least let people know what other work you'd had done to achieve that figure - there are already enough people out there disappointed with the figures they get on rolling roads after having mods done, repeated failures to meet the numbers they've been told to expect and the discussions as to why.

[tiler]

NO NO NO 536bhp on a standard engine 618bhp after engine mods but low boost then sold it for the much much faster R8

WRC dyno day if you care about the source of the numbers

Edited by tiler on Sunday 13th July 18:06

[Boosted LS1]

well_fans said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Thanks, pretty cool aren't they. I must say I'm wondering if the Jag set up could be adapted for the chevy engine. I have intake flanges which could be adapted and the chargecoolers are a huge bonus. The jag stuff would need to look 'prettier' though.

Boosted.

oh no what has Tiler started, not only are we going to have my charger's bigger than yours we're going to be getting lots more "my charger's shinier/prettier/got more neons than yours" threads

The jag stuff looks pretty naff, would need a really good polish and some tlc to suit you guys

[essexmonarovxr]

I agree with you 100% on the worms. I think ill be getting my SC from OZ.
Hope to see you all at Ace Cafe

[o.versteer]

tiler said:

MARK is the only one to blow any cars up

I think this sort of comment, without backing it up, is pretty useless. I also happen to think that backing it up, and the ruckus that would create, is fairly useless too. So I can only conclude that you're posting it solely to stir up shit, which is REALLY useless, but is a nice example of what this forum has sadly become. Give it a rest eh?

[biglump]

Wormus - I sadly have to agree...There's lots of talk of warranties and "Vauxhall approved" which is all quite frankly a load of tosh. Its all about the dealer - IMHO there are only couple of superb Monaro friendly ones in the whole of the UK, but I'm not sure they should be offering upgrades from a third party...To me it clouds the water and gives them an unfair advantage against the likes of RapidGB, Monkfish and the like when the dealers offer "Vauxhall Approved" upgrades. Having spoken to VX, there is no such thing. ANY upgrade, without exception, is warranted by the supplier, not VX. Why can't Wortec supply and fit directly through independants like Monkfish - Seems to me this would create a much more level playing field...Maybe that's why they don't ;-0

The bottom line is that you pay your £££'s and you make your choice...There will always be a Rapid GB v's Wortec argument and whilst the latter has the "backing" (yeah right) of VX here in the UK, the conversions are virtually the same giving similar results. Will be interesting to see what happens after a couple of years - Afterservice is the key. What happens when VX pull the plug on the big V8 imports???? Will the dealers still be interested????

I went the Magnacharger route coz I like to buck the trend (also the reason for initial purchase of the Monaro) and I have faith in Mark and his experience, as I do with the Wortec boys.

Can we get this forum back to slagging off all German cars, all Japanese cars and anything else that doesn't have a huge V8 up front??? Much more fun than the "mine's better than yours" nonsense that seems to have creeped in lately.

Remember....Sideways is the way forward!!!!! 'Av it!

wormus said:

Will you ignorant fu**ers stop calling my SC installation ugly? I've seen the Harrop installation and it looks pretty much the same. The only difference is I haven't got the plastic engine covers on in this picture! Like a handful of others, I'm really happy with the results and other people might be too if they give it a go.

I get so sick of this shite-filled forum, nobody will accept anything that isn't Monkfish or Wortec even though there are plenty of tuning alternatives out there (procharger, magnacharger, Difillipo,Hayward & Scott etc). All the newbies are looking for informed,impartial advice and all you sheep are doing them a disservice by giving the same answer every time.

No disrespect to Monkfish or Wortec who are both excellent; shame on the rest of you!

[ukvoyager.info]

There is only one nice looking engine and its in here...



Nuff said.

[Demolition Man]

........how can a supercharger look 'ugly'?? Mo Molam is ugly (and maybe mud guards on a Monaro)...but certainly not a supecharger

Edited by Demolition Man on Tuesday 8th January 14:54

[caspy]

OK OK.....Jap stuff is crap (apart from, maybe, the new Skyline!!)

Monkfish do supply s/c install etc etc not just Vx dealers.

[LathamJohnP]

biglump said:

Wormus - I sadly have to agree...There's lots of talk of warranties and "Vauxhall approved" which is all quite frankly a load of tosh. Its all about the dealer - IMHO there are only couple of superb Monaro friendly ones in the whole of the UK, but I'm not sure they should be offering upgrades from a third party...To me it clouds the water and gives them an unfair advantage against the likes of RapidGB, Monkfish and the like when the dealers offer "Vauxhall Approved" upgrades. Having spoken to VX, there is no such thing. ANY upgrade, without exception, is warranted by the supplier, not VX.

The thing is, VX probably need the "approved" route as much as the tuner since it gets the cars into mainstream motoring press as "official" S/C VXR8s (or VXR500s previously). This adds the "halo effect" to the VXR brand.

Without this, the mags/TV (other than niche tuning stuff) will mostly ignore them in group tests etc.

Not saying this is right, but that's the way it goes.

Mind you, Evo have given lots of coverage in the past to non-JCW BMW Mini tuning (Hartge etc), so who knows.

John

[anonymous-user]

Demolition Man said:

........how can a supercharger look 'ugly'?? Mo Molam is ugly (and maybe mud guards on a Monaro)...but certainly not a supecharger

Edited by Demolition Man on Tuesday 8th January 14:54

Here's what it looks like with the engine covers on:



BTW Tiler, how is the big, ugly Vectra?

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 8th January 19:43

[mpb]

Reading all this about Superchargers, has anybody used a differnt type of one such as a centrifugal (Vortech or Procharger).
Would be interested to know how they compare in terms of power,power delivery, reliability and costs?