cobra misano lux seats

cobra misano lux seats

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SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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M11 MFP said:
Couldn't you use an appropriate variable resistor on the cars airbag wiring, rather than risk messing with the removed seats. Just turn it up until the controller says ok. Or am I being thick?
On the contrary, you may be being a very clever boy indeed. Makes sense to me anyway smile

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Definitely! It seems 3.3 Ohm is quite common, seen that on quite a few forums for various makes / models. Will see what resistors we have around at work, see if I can't just grab a selection and stick them in the seat plug and see what it does.

Will have to test this at the fish I presume as it'll need to have the code cleared to see if it re-appears, as it's a latched fault isn't it? Roger will be sick of the site of me!


mikeyb1987

2,356 posts

154 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Sturdy, did you manage to get the airbag light turned off? If so, was it an easy fix?

KMud

2,924 posts

156 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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mikeyb1987 said:
Sturdy, did you manage to get the airbag light turned off? If so, was it an easy fix?
Nope, see this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

mikeyb1987

2,356 posts

154 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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KMud said:
mikeyb1987 said:
Sturdy, did you manage to get the airbag light turned off? If so, was it an easy fix?
Nope, see this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
thumbup cheers!

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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mikeyb1987 said:
thumbup cheers!
I've got a couple of resistors to try, I just haven't got around to it yet, as will need to go to the 'fish after I've 'fitted' the resistors to get them to reset it to see if it comes back again...

Will certainly update the thread once I get it sorted though thumbup

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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A progress report on the seat / air bag light fiasco.

Simple resistors got rid of the 'Resistance too high' codes, but now we have 'Capacitance too high' codes instead.

I'm now thinking of trying one of the Kent-Moore air bag dummy load tools.

I found this useful LS1GTO thread about the 'EL-46841', so I've asked on there.
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4317...

There's also GM Special Service Tools, and that gives these results for 'Air bag dummy load'

EL 46841
https://gmspecialservicetools.spx.com/ToolDetails....

(with this PDF https://gmspecialservicetools.spx.com/Media/Common... )

EL 46867
https://gmspecialservicetools.spx.com/ToolDetails....

I've found the 46867 on ebay, but the 46841 I can't find anywhere. The 46841 appears to be more pretensioner related than I'd like reading that thread, whereas the 46867 seems specifically about air bag dummy load. The L/S in the 46867 name bothers me, as it stinks of left side, but there's no R / S anywhere, so it probably means something else...

Looking at the 46867 connector though, it won't fit the plug under the seat, whereas the 46841 will. I wonder whether the 46867 is meant to be used with an adapter cable that plugs into the under seat connector perhaps?

Ideally I'd get hold of a 46841, but there aren't any I can find at the moment, although I could try ordering a couple from gmspecialservicetools... I'm wondering whether to try the 46867, connect it up and hope. If it works, I could then make something up to mimic the 46867, as it can't be that complicated, surely?

Any thoughts / wisdom / well wishes welcome! Apologies if it's not the most coherent post, very much just a brain dump...thumbup

gsd2000

11,515 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Have you tried to get hold of the guy who owns the blue monaro vxr on vxronline?

He had similar seats so he might be able to assist

I think he works at a vauxhall dealer somewhere

Good work so far, keep at it

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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gsd2000 said:
Have you tried to get hold of the guy who owns the blue monaro vxr on vxronline?

He had similar seats so he might be able to assist

I think he works at a vauxhall dealer somewhere

Good work so far, keep at it
Good idea, I'm not on vxr online, does anyone know what his username is or an e-mail address? Else I'll go do some digging...

Tattooboy

7,946 posts

178 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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gsd2000 said:
Have you tried to get hold of the guy who owns the blue monaro vxr on vxronline?

He had similar seats so he might be able to assist

I think he works at a vauxhall dealer somewhere

Good work so far, keep at it
Either that or an Autolectrian.

You need to get this sorted as the new MOT rules means this will be a fail won't it?

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Tattooboy said:
Either that or an Autolectrian.

You need to get this sorted as the new MOT rules means this will be a fail won't it?
Correct, but I've got a few months smile

KMud

2,924 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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SturdyHSV said:
A progress report on the seat / air bag light fiasco.

Simple resistors got rid of the 'Resistance too high' codes, but now we have 'Capacitance too high' codes instead.

[...]
Not that I'm professing to know anything...but in AC circuits the opposite of capacitance is inductance (basically a coil). However, aren't these things DC? In which case capacitance too high might mean that it takes too long upon applying a voltage across the circuit for the charge to build...but surely your resistors aren't very capacitative? Possibly the code is a misnomer.

Hope you get this sorted soon frown

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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KMud said:
Not that I'm professing to know anything...but in AC circuits the opposite of capacitance is inductance (basically a coil). However, aren't these things DC? In which case capacitance too high might mean that it takes too long upon applying a load across the circuit for the voltage across the circuit to build...but surely your resistors aren't very capacitative? Possibly the code is a misnomer.

Hope you get this sorted soon frown
I was wondering whether if the resistance is close, but still wrong, it might cause a different code?

I'll have a look into that too smile

KMud

2,924 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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SturdyHSV said:
I was wondering whether if the resistance is close, but still wrong, it might cause a different code?

I'll have a look into that too smile
Would assume it's go/no go...but I know nothing...getmecoat

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Have taken a punt on some Kent Moore airbag dummy load bits, will see how I get on there, might try playing with some different resistor values too whilst I wait for the bits to arrive.

007 VXR

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64,187 posts

187 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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hope you get it sorted mate, join VXRonline and post a thread, nothing to lose ?

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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007 VXR said:
hope you get it sorted mate, join VXRonline and post a thread, nothing to lose ?
Have done smile I have a spare set of seats at Monkfish so worst case scenario, must be able to hack those up and see what I can see with the airbags (ideally without blowing myself up smile )

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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gsd2000 said:
Have you tried to get hold of the guy who owns the blue monaro vxr on vxronline?

He had similar seats so he might be able to assist

I think he works at a vauxhall dealer somewhere

Good work so far, keep at it
If you mean the Arden Blue Monaro, then I have a feeling he was in Essex. Badboyburt may know of him, if that is the case.

SturdyHSV

10,097 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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ARAF said:
If you mean the Arden Blue Monaro, then I have a feeling he was in Essex. Badboyburt may know of him, if that is the case.
Badboyburt doesn't it seems (on the 'other' forum hehe)