Will sags hit 60k this year?

[ray von]

Rocco1 said:

Difference between a Tamora, Sag and Aston V8 Vantage

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4pjEG_3Aw&feat...

As this has been dragged off topic, I think I'll take it further Did the guy who posted the video used to work at Bury Performance Cars years ago?
I bought a Clio Williams 1 from him
Carry on

[greenbandit641]

ray von said:

Rocco1 said:

Difference between a Tamora, Sag and Aston V8 Vantage

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4pjEG_3Aw&feat...

As this has been dragged off topic, I think I'll take it further Did the guy who posted the video used to work at Bury Performance Cars years ago?
I bought a Clio Williams 1 from him
Carry on

Yes I did work at bury performance cars, that's amazing that you recognise my voice.

[AOK]

greenbandit641 said:

Yes I did work at bury performance cars, that's amazing that you recognise my voice.

Probably more the fact your YT username is your full name!

I reckon the Tamora driver would have kept up with you had he not needed to start easing off to pass that car? On paper they should be quite comparable cars.

[greenbandit641]

AOK said:

Probably more the fact your YT username is your full name!

I reckon the Tamora driver would have kept up with you had he not needed to start easing off to pass that car? On paper they should be quite comparable cars.

The reason we decided to carry out the test was because all three cars were of similar power even though the Vantage was at a big disadvantage due the extra weight it was carrying, 600kgs to be exact but the didn't bother me (Vantage driver). The Tamora didn't stand a chance which I was quiet surprised to be honest because just before we carried out the test we gave our opinions of which car would accelerate away and I did say that I thought the Tamora would but it was left behind by both the Sagaris and Vantage and the vantage just pulled away from the Sag once the Sag changed gear, the vantage was just going into its powerband which is why it then left the Sag behind and the Tamora wasn't hindered by the car in front and that is why he had plenty of time to switch lanes and the Tamora driver came on the radio saying the other two cars have left him behind.

[Rocco1]

Can only agree with greenbandit and if the driver of the Tamora is reading he will no doubt agree
The proof was in the pudding ;-)

[chris watton]

The point I was trying to make was that (I am assuming) the Tamora is a 3.6, and that Sag in particular is a Powers' 4.3. The difference is like night and day, I know, as I upgraded from 3.6 to 4.3 for my Tam, along with diff and CR box.

I would have been surprised if the 4.3 Sag didn't pull away from a standard 3.6, if indeed the Tam is a 3.6 - the torque in the 4.3 is more immediate.

[Rocco1]

There's nowt so queer a folk,you honestly think as standard Sag will be overtaken by standard Tamora,next you will be saying they feel rock solid at 130+

[chris watton]

Rocco1 said:

There's nowt so queer a folk,you honestly think as standard Sag will be overtaken by standard Tamora,next you will be saying they feel rock solid at 130+

No, Nowhere did I say that!

I was suggesting that your sag has 700cc more than the Tamora in that video (again, I am assuming it's a 3.6). Your Sag is not standard as it left the factory, it has had a £9k engine upgrade.

For the avoidance of doubt, no, I do not think for a second that any standard Tamora would overtake a 4 litre standard Sagaris if both are gunning it, let alone a 4.3 version.

[Jhonno]

Targarama said:

chris watton said:

Rocco1 said:

Difference between a Tamora, Sag and Aston V8 Vantage

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4pjEG_3Aw&feat...

Is that a standard 3.6 Tam?

There are a few out there with the 4.3 upgrade, and are quite a few Kg lighter that the coupe versions.

Having said that, mine's used for the twisties, that's where the fun is..

Not really a decent comparison. The Tamora slowed due to another car in his lane ahead. Driver, gearing and level of insanity dictate which of these is faster. Personally I find my 3.6 with a 3.9 final drive more than fast enough for the road. A 4.3 or LS v8 would be nice but I see no need to go any faster than I already can, which I find interesting since my view used to be that you can't have too much power... age eh :_

To me that looks like the Sag driver slowed as well to let the Vantage out round another car!

[gordonsalive]

Hope the BIB aren't interested in your video

[greenbandit641]

Jhonno said:

To me that looks like the Sag driver slowed as well to let the Vantage out round another car!

The sag driver didn't slow to let the vantage out as there was nothing in front of the vantage to warrant that, I have video footage to prove that too. I find it odd how people look for excuses, why not just accept it.

Edited by greenbandit641 on Thursday 26th November 17:50

[Lotus E300S]

Strange Vid, my standard Sag murders my mates V8 vantage especially from standstill, doesn't seem the best place to be pissing about as well, my Sag also very stable at 160+ mph autobahn, you can really feel that rear wing working over 120 mph.

[gacksen]

chris watton said:

The point I was trying to make was that (I am assuming) the Tamora is a 3.6, and that Sag in particular is a Powers' 4.3. The difference is like night and day, I know, as I upgraded from 3.6 to 4.3 for my Tam, along with diff and CR box.

I would have been surprised if the 4.3 Sag didn't pull away from a standard 3.6, if indeed the Tam is a 3.6 - the torque in the 4.3 is more immediate.

thats true chris. had the impression anybody would be talking about a standard sag.

if we are talking modified stuff i do know some folks here that will teach the sag a lesson

[Rocco1]

Would be interesting to hear opinions from those who have driven TVR and say Ferrari Lamborghini Porsche Aston and notice the difference in the cars character at speeds over and above 120 ,all i can say those that have driven above 150 have balls of steel and half their car has disintegrated lol

[gacksen]

Rocco1 said:

Would be interesting to hear opinions from those who have driven TVR and say Ferrari Lamborghini Porsche Aston and notice the difference in the cars character at speeds over and above 120 ,all i can say those that have driven above 150 have balls of steel and half their car has disintegrated lol

get your geo set up properly than you don´t have anything to fear especilly in a sag......

[Lotus E300S]

In a straight line same engine the Tamora should be quicker, it's about 100 kg lighter.

[Lotus E300S]

Rocco1 said:

Would be interesting to hear opinions from those who have driven TVR and say Ferrari Lamborghini Porsche Aston and notice the difference in the cars character at speeds over and above 120 ,all i can say those that have driven above 150 have balls of steel and half their car has disintegrated lol

I raised ride height and softened damping slightly, works a lot better on road now, my Porsche is a lot quicker than my Sag but a V8 vantage would have no chance.

I've seen 176 mph in the Sag, if steering to nervous you could always try pulling the grey power steering fuse that's under bonnet, firms steering up.

You will need a 3.4 diff if you want to go fast at silly speeds, mine pulls strong to 160 mph in 4th gear.

Edited by Lotus E300S on Thursday 26th November 18:34

[ray von]

greenbandit641 said:

ray von said:

Rocco1 said:

Difference between a Tamora, Sag and Aston V8 Vantage

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4pjEG_3Aw&feat...

As this has been dragged off topic, I think I'll take it further Did the guy who posted the video used to work at Bury Performance Cars years ago?
I bought a Clio Williams 1 from him
Carry on

Yes I did work at bury performance cars, that's amazing that you recognise my voice.

Yeah it was the username Cracking car you sold me by the way

[Rocco1]

For the avoidance of any doubt my car is set up correctly and i do like the Sag,think its incredible how such a relatively small company with small budget developed such a beautiful looking car with astonishing performance
Yet driving it at speed the i feel more comfortable in the opposition

[Rocco1]

Lotus E300S said:

In a straight line same engine the Tamora should be quicker, it's about 100 kg lighter.

And the Sag is 4.0