Will sags hit 60k this year?

[greenbandit641]

Lotus E300S said:

I raised ride height and softened damping slightly, works a lot better on road now, my Porsche is a lot quicker than my Sag but a V8 vantage would have no chance.

I've seen 176 mph in the Sag, if steering to nervous you could always try pulling the grey power steering fuse that's under bonnet, firms steering up.

It's worth pointing out that I didn't post the video nor did I intend to and we only carried out the test out of curiosity, I don't disagree that a Sag would murder a vantage V8 4.3 to 60mph as it is in black & white. The Sag also has the fastest top speed which is 185mph claimed so I'm not sure where this thread is going as all we did was try the 3 cars out as again on paper they are similar on power although the Sag should have more than the other 2 with it having the 4.3 engine, but it's not worth getting hung up on as it was a bit of fun, for those that can't accept that the Vantage had the edge once it was in the power band then I don't have anything more to say but you can make up your own minds and if you think a sag can murder a vantage then you are entitled to your opinions but don't know how a video can be called strange? We didn't use derren brown in the making.

Edited by greenbandit641 on Thursday 26th November 18:53

[Rocco1]

Anyway gents lets get back on topic enough of the hijacking,we will never agree (for the record Aston V8 should not be underestimated)

[Lotus E300S]

No problem guys, just giving my experience.

[T4NGO]

My sag felt pretty stable at 150 at spa classics down the kimmel straight. The gt3 and 430 either side of me seemed to be having just as much fun Everyone should do spa classics! The siteing laps seem to translate to "out you go, have fun", rules...? yeah.
As a side note, I was running my tyres at 32psi (from fitting). Later that evening I was told should be 24, more than 26 is suicide?! So either its ok or not ok and has something or nothing to do with stablility, who knows. Just felt might be relevant.

[Rocco1]

T4NGO said:

My sag felt pretty stable at 150 at spa classics down the kimmel straight. The gt3 and 430 either side of me seemed to be having just as much fun Everyone should do spa classics! The siteing laps seem to translate to "out you go, have fun", rules...? yeah.
As a side note, I was running my tyres at 32psi (from fitting). Later that evening I was told should be 24, more than 26 is suicide?! So either its ok or not ok and has something or nothing to do with stablility, who knows. Just felt might be relevant.

I think you may have a point on tyre pressure,when i bought my car i didnt check the tyre preassure and drove about 1000 miles and found it great.Sunday gone we went out for a drive and before doing so i checked the tyre preassure and it was arround 18psi,i immediately inflated to 30psi.The road was wet and snow on higher ground as well as a lot of standing water.My Sag was behaving oddly on the motorway at 60/70 (sliding) yet okish on the triangle.On the way back the motorway had almost dried yet didnt have the bottle to push it,maybe someone will know what is the correct amount of tyre preassure that should be used

[thainy77]

Rocco1 said:

I think you may have a point on tyre pressure,when i bought my car i didnt check the tyre preassure and drove about 1000 miles and found it great.Sunday gone we went out for a drive and before doing so i checked the tyre preassure and it was arround 18psi,i immediately inflated to 30psi.The road was wet and snow on higher ground as well as a lot of standing water.My Sag was behaving oddly on the motorway at 60/70 (sliding) yet okish on the triangle.On the way back the motorway had almost dried yet didnt have the bottle to push it,maybe someone will know what is the correct amount of tyre preassure that should be used

24psi is considered the optimum pressure, there are quite a few threads on it.

Also to comment on an earlier post regarding travelling at speed in other cars. I had a T350 with a ton of upgrades including 4.3, Nitrons etc. and had the geo played with a few times and i agree, anything over 110-120mph was hair raising! When travelling at similar speeds in the Lambo it feels rock steady and still does as you near the top end.

I'm not putting TVR's down as i love them and the T350 was the car i have owned the longest but they have a few foibles and travelling at speed is definitely one of them, they do not inspire confidence.

[Rocco1]

thainy77 said:

24psi is considered the optimum pressure, there are quite a few threads on it.

Also to comment on an earlier post regarding travelling at speed in other cars. I had a T350 with a ton of upgrades including 4.3, Nitrons etc. and had the geo played with a few times and i agree, anything over 110-120mph was hair raising! When travelling at similar speeds in the Lambo it feels rock steady and still does as you near the top end.

I'm not putting TVR's down as i love them and the T350 was the car i have owned the longest but they have a few foibles and travelling at speed is definitely one of them, they do not inspire confidence.

"They do not aspire conidence" but make you 5hite youtself lol

[T4NGO]

I'd kinda disagree. Granted I've not driven any other cars at that speed, but the sag and even the tamora with roof down both felt fine at 150 (first time 150 in tam the roof flew off - hence the no roof rest of day lol). Even to the point it felt I could let go of the steering? They both felt fine well over a 1'er in corners too?

[Jhonno]

Maybe a Cerb is a different kettle of fish, but I've had mine up to 130 without trying and it was fine, perfectly stable.

Edited by Jhonno on Friday 27th November 14:29

[chris watton]

I think the very quick steering rack also accentuates any flaws in the geometry when going at speed, making the car feel more jittery than one with a slower rack.

[thainy77]

chris watton said:

I think the very quick steering rack also accentuates any flaws in the geometry when going at speed, making the car feel more jittery than one with a slower rack.

This is probably it to be honest, there was no such thing as a leisurely cruise, you are always on your guard. It's good fun but sometimes it's nice to relax .

[Rocco1]

thainy77 said:

This is probably it to be honest, there was no such thing as a leisurely cruise, you are always on your guard. It's good fun but sometimes it's nice to relax .

+1

[gacksen]

thainy77 said:

This is probably it to be honest, there was no such thing as a leisurely cruise, you are always on your guard. It's good fun but sometimes it's nice to relax .

sure but keep in mind for what sort of driving the car is set up. you can set it up for curvy roads
or you can set it up beeing planted on the straights. e.g. my chim is set up for curvy raods and i can
tell you with 120mph and above better avoid speed bumps and keep both hand on the wheel whereas a tuscan
of a friend feels fully stable at speeds above 130mph. i guess the term refered here is the steering feels
quite nervous but this is just a matter of set up.

[8nil]

thainy77 said:

24psi is considered the optimum pressure, there are quite a few threads on it.

Also to comment on an earlier post regarding travelling at speed in other cars. I had a T350 with a ton of upgrades including 4.3, Nitrons etc. and had the geo played with a few times and i agree, anything over 110-120mph was hair raising! When travelling at similar speeds in the Lambo it feels rock steady and still does as you near the top end.

I'm not putting TVR's down as i love them and the T350 was the car i have owned the longest but they have a few foibles and travelling at speed is definitely one of them, they do not inspire confidence.

My T2S tickled an indicated 157 on the main straight at Monza and was as solid as a rock.
135 up the Kemmel was kiddies play for it also.
I might just have a 'good un', but mine is a joy when horsing on.

[thainy77]

I agree on the setup in combination with the fast rack but i had some very well known specialists look at the geo and it never felt 100% to me. I was always on edge when pushing on, more so than i would be in something more mainstream.

Anyway, i think this thread might be getting slightly off topic now, back to the 100k Sags.

[Lotus E300S]

Rocco1 said:

I think you may have a point on tyre pressure,when i bought my car i didnt check the tyre preassure and drove about 1000 miles and found it great.Sunday gone we went out for a drive and before doing so i checked the tyre preassure and it was arround 18psi,i immediately inflated to 30psi.The road was wet and snow on higher ground as well as a lot of standing water.My Sag was behaving oddly on the motorway at 60/70 (sliding) yet okish on the triangle.On the way back the motorway had almost dried yet didnt have the bottle to push it,maybe someone will know what is the correct amount of tyre preassure that should be used

24 psi when tyre up to temp.

[Targarama]

Lotus E300S said:

Rocco1 said:

I think you may have a point on tyre pressure,when i bought my car i didnt check the tyre preassure and drove about 1000 miles and found it great.Sunday gone we went out for a drive and before doing so i checked the tyre preassure and it was arround 18psi,i immediately inflated to 30psi.The road was wet and snow on higher ground as well as a lot of standing water.My Sag was behaving oddly on the motorway at 60/70 (sliding) yet okish on the triangle.On the way back the motorway had almost dried yet didnt have the bottle to push it,maybe someone will know what is the correct amount of tyre preassure that should be used

24 psi when tyre up to temp.

Really? I thought it was 24 psi cold.

Str8Six set them up at 26 psi at each service I've had. I put them at 24-25 psi which is my personal preference (cold)

[Lotus E300S]

Anything over 24 hot I find skittish, winter time I run them 24 cold on road, summer 22 cold, track 18 cold.

Maybe explains why Roccos tyres were at 18 psi

[Pursyluv]

Good thread this, amazing how a question about values can go in so many directions!

Anyway in my little 3.6 Tam, I dId 155mph down Wittering taxiway with the roof on, 145 down Sherburn runway with the roof off, always an event, always a little bit scary, tyres set at 24psi on both occasions, also I see differing top speeds quoted for the 3.6 and with a standard gearbox and diff it's definitely not 175, probably 160 tops.

[Rocco1]

So back on topic,do we see the Sag at £70k +