Would these LED's fit a Tamora for brake lights?

Would these LED's fit a Tamora for brake lights?

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grigio alloy

122 posts

262 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Hi Buzz,
good point about the brightness and was a concern for me too.
Hope I am not mistaken but having six x tail/brake/indicator as it were will compensate.
Definitely no issues at the front with `Angel Eyes`side lights.
Dipped and main beam are Xenon of course.
BuzzBillsberry said:


The only issue for me with Brendan's lights is safety; they'll look pretty at night or on a dully day but they look very dim. What will they be like with direct sunlight shining on them + are they 'E' marked ? because if they are not it will contravene euro law and if you got a particular arsey MOT inspector he'll fail the car for the MOT or if the rozzers pull you over cos the lights are too dim and see they're not 'E' marked well u know the rest...especially if it's traffic rozzers....

The above lights look more like it for brightness and I'm sure the prices will be a little more acceptable...I get the impression with all the emailing that the price of Brendon's won't be cheap ....

Buzz

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

231 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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shep1001 said:
The S-V-C supplied lights are 'E' marked. I have priced it up at about £250 to do all the lights on the Tamora (apart from the front fogs) excluding the time needed to fit them.
Andy it might be worth chatting to SVC to see if they would give discount on a. Bulk TVR purchase depending on the quantities involved . I know they've be pretty flexible in the past when I've done bulk buys for WSCC. Just a thought....

Buzz

ninetynine

537 posts

242 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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i have brendans (concept performance ) led lights everyone who has followed me
has commented how much more visable the lights are and several are looking at doing the upgrade

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Brendan emailed me back and said that he will look into making a set for the Tamora, the lights are apparently a little bigger for the Tam, so new LED holders have to be made.

chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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BuzzBillsberry said:
Hiya Chris

Has Brendan given u a price for these LED's just wondered what it was?

Cherri's

Buzz
He said he'd get back to me with some prices and timescales. As soon as I know.. smile

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Quick tease/update.


Bag of swag arrived from S-V-C today. When I got fed up with working this afternoon I took a 60 min time out and fitted the tail lights. It would appear to be a real simple job of disconnecting the old lamp holders, push the lense back through the hole, mount the new light using silicone adhesive and re-terminate the wires. About 40 mins with a brew in the middle. Indicators will be the same but not decided yet where to put the balance resistors. Not keen on mounting to the body as I don't know how hot they will get might leave it 'hanging' in the body cavity just have to see how hot the resistors get first.

They sit slightly less proud than the stock items but I think it looks good. No need to worry about brightness either, they are mega bright (think LED lights on the back of a Range Rover!

Money shot as promised.



Edited by shep1001 on Wednesday 19th February 17:12

paul1962

546 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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I like smile

Instead of fitting resistors for the indicators what about replacing the flasher relay with one that works with LEDs ?

chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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That looks great! So you just bought the lights and connectors, and for the brake lights at least, it's just a simple in-out job?

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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paul1962 said:
I like smile

Instead of fitting resistors for the indicators what about replacing the flasher relay with one that works with LEDs ?
Sounds simple but is it as easy as replacing the relay on the fuseboard? I don't see how changing the relay corrects the lower current draw of the lights.

Shep

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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chris watton said:
That looks great! So you just bought the lights and connectors, and for the brake lights at least, it's just a simple in-out job?
Yes, put them in on bullets for easy removal. Test fit them first as you may need to trim the 3 lugs to get them to sit square with 'TOP' where is should be otherwise you end up covered in silicone...... The indicators should be equally as easy its just what to do with the resistor.

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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shep1001 said:
Yes, put them in on bullets for easy removal. Test fit them first as you may need to trim the 3 lugs to get them to sit square with 'TOP' where is should be otherwise you end up covered in silicone...... The indicators should be equally as easy its just what to do with the resistor.
Thank you. I know these are really silly basic questions, but I haven't done anything like this before in my life (and I always seem to waste money getting the wrong stuff..), but which connectors would you recommend and what type of silicone adhesive was used, black, clear etc.?

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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chris watton said:
Thank you. I know these are really silly basic questions, but I haven't done anything like this before in my life (and I always seem to waste money getting the wrong stuff..), but which connectors would you recommend and what type of silicone adhesive was used, black, clear etc.?
Ordinary black low modulus silicone that you can get from B&Q for £5 (or from one of those trade window places for £1.50) you can't see the silicone so any colour will do. They don't need to be perfectly sealed either as the top 2 lights drain through the body shell - thats what the little holes are for on the lip above the lower tail/fog lights. As for the connectors Red or blue bullet connectors will do, I would not go for scotch-lock type connectors other than to put the resistors in simply for ease of removal.

chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Thank you again smile

I am not one for exterior mods, but these make a lot of sense - upgrading the intensity of the rear lights can't be anything other than a good thing.

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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OK, indicators terminated and balance resistor fitted. I will test before installation to confirm correct flash rate. Assuming the 50W 6ohm resistors do the job they should, you can get them off the bay of fleas - 4 complete with wires and scotch-locks for £5 delivered.


madbadger

11,563 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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Interesting thread. Electrics normally scare me but this actually sounds fairly straight forward. smile

RedSpike66

2,336 posts

212 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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can we have some links to websites for the lights and resistors/connectors please...
Thanks.

They look very good by the way - good job!

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th February 2014
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RedSpike66 said:
can we have some links to websites for the lights and resistors/connectors please...
Thanks.

They look very good by the way - good job!
About £250 to do a Tamora if you get all the bits in one go.


http://www.s-v-c.co.uk

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/ultrabright-inner-l...

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/ultrabright-inner-l...

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/ultrabright-inner-f...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200pc-Crimp-Set-Insulate...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100x-Blue-Scotch-Lock-Wi...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-X-50W-LOAD-RESISTOR-Ba...

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/ultrabright-inner-l...



Edited by shep1001 on Wednesday 19th February 22:25

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Another update: Got up early this morning & it was not raining so before starting work installed the indicators. Again about 30-40 mins work to remove the old ones & terminate/bond the new lights in place.


The 50W 6ohm resistors work fine and give you a flash rate of 60 flashes per minute so meet the MOT requirements for flash rate. After 2 minutes with the hazards on the resistors were not very hot so I might mount to the inside of the body shell on the inner section of the body.


Thinking about the alternative and using a relay instead of the resistors, 3 pin LED indicator relays can be had for about £7 does anybody know if the TVR is left or right side (of the relay) positive? they can be either and I forgot to check earlier.


Important bit:









Edited by shep1001 on Thursday 20th February 09:00

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Scotch Locks! You should be siliconed in place. biggrin

Have you a link to the LED relays please?

paul1962

546 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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mk1fan said:
Scotch Locks! You should be siliconed in place. biggrin

Have you a link to the LED relays please?
Assuming TVRs work this way they're either CF13 or CF14 -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CF13-LED-FLASHER-UNIT-FI...

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fix-Flash-Rate-Turn-Sign...