£76000 Sagaris

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natben

2,743 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I'd want to see the car up and running first.....remember Pascal waited 5 years on getting his car built and in the end spunked over £30k and received nothing!!

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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natben said:
I'd want to see the car up and running first.....remember Pascal waited 5 years on getting his car built and in the end spunked over £30k and received nothing!!
yes

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Hi Jenny,

That is not great. Did the raceproved one not end up with you? Send me a email if easier or give me a bell.

Paul.....




Funky said:
This car is my old car which got stranded in the factory in 2006. It was indeed one of the last Sagaris. There was huge sentimental value for me to this Sagaris because of everything i went through to try and locate it and also as my late father has signed the body.

I tried to buy it on numerous occasions from Racing Green but for some unknown reason they overlooked me both times when their previous 'buyers' pulled out, even though i was apparently first on the reserve list. I wouldn't even waste my time trying again. It was all very disappointing especially considering they knew i was a serious customer as i had previously had my Sagaris serviced there.

spitfire4v8

3,996 posts

182 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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The more I read about racing green the less I want to do business with them ...

Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

222 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I don't think your alone with that thought

Funky

1,064 posts

228 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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blackiepaul said:
Hi Jenny,

That is not great. Did the raceproved one not end up with you? Send me a email if easier or give me a bell.

Paul.....
Hi Paul, no raceproved were worse. I traveled over after being promised the shell and chassis and to finalise spec. After the trip which obviously was not cheap, Russell disappeared off the face of the earth. Eventually he got someone else to ring me to try and talk the deal through but in the end it fell through after many months of wasting my time. Ill send you a pm.

Walford

2,259 posts

167 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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natben said:
I'd want to see the car up and running first.....remember Pascal waited 5 years on getting his car built and in the end spunked over £30k and received nothing!!
Did he get the "car" back?

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Funky said:
Hi Paul, no raceproved were worse. I traveled over after being promised the shell and chassis and to finalise spec. After the trip which obviously was not cheap, Russell disappeared off the face of the earth. Eventually he got someone else to ring me to try and talk the deal through but in the end it fell through after many months of wasting my time. Ill send you a pm.
I had a similar experience at the time with RP as well, but got things sorted in the end.

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Walford said:
Did he get the "car" back?
To cut a long story short, no, and things did not end well. But I won't post the details as it will impact the thread not in a nice way.

Funky

1,064 posts

228 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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alex_gray255 said:
I had a similar experience at the time with RP as well, but got things sorted in the end.
It was a shame as i have seen the work on Alex's car and they had done some really great stuff. I was very much looking forward to working with them.

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Funky said:
It was a shame as i have seen the work on Alex's car and they had done some really great stuff. I was very much looking forward to working with them.
I'm still happy to work with Russ, but I think he has focused on other things these days.

Brendan has of course now setup on his own and has my car. I've visited it a couple of times, so I know it is moving along biggrin

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Now POA.

RedSpike66

2,336 posts

213 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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alex_gray255 said:
They are supposed to have a new sales manager there who is looking to rebuild their rep.
Two words... task.. impossible !
They are a joke outfit the way they behave - only Don1 seems to have anything good to say about them !

SirSagalot

176 posts

182 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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I was one of the customers who paid a deposit for the car in 2011 and agreed to pay a cash price £70k for her upon completion with the option to trade in my Sag for £40k. I was told that I would be very involved with the fitting out process having agreed the fullest spec imaginable. I sent in excess of 30 emails and received very few replies. Things I was told had been done, had not. I would phone up and they would tell me it's in the workshop being worked on and I was assured I would have the car in September 2012, then January 2013. I was then told it would be ready by Easter and so I told them of the trim finish, tyres and a few other bits. I also said that I would be paying in cash and hanging on to my Sag. They wouldn't proceed because they insisted I now had to trade mine in. At that point all trust and confidence was lost and so they eagerly sent me the deposit back. I was given the run around for two years and so I hope the next purchaser has a better experience.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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On the face of it, it does seem that pure greed is the motivating factor here. Could be wrong, though....

SirSagalot

176 posts

182 months

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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First I should say I have had no dealings with RG other than buying 2 small parts, which cost what I was told, were what I had asked for, and were delivered to the right place at the right time…
Two pennenth -I'm surprised that anyone can price a car when the level of finish is still to be determined – other than assuming a very high specification, so POA is probably the correct way to advertise the sale.
If they get a figure close to the 76K they initially asked it would seem reasonable, especially in light of folk asking and seeming to be getting 55K for 30-40K mile models and newer or very low mileage cars selling for over 60K?
Folk that are looking to buy will always complain, those owning or looking to sell should be happy that prices are going up and not down – surely??

slimtater

1,035 posts

171 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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SirSagalot said:
I was one of the customers who paid a deposit for the car in 2011 and agreed to pay a cash price £70k for her upon completion with the option to trade in my Sag for £40k. I was told that I would be very involved with the fitting out process having agreed the fullest spec imaginable. I sent in excess of 30 emails and received very few replies. Things I was told had been done, had not. I would phone up and they would tell me it's in the workshop being worked on and I was assured I would have the car in September 2012, then January 2013. I was then told it would be ready by Easter and so I told them of the trim finish, tyres and a few other bits. I also said that I would be paying in cash and hanging on to my Sag. They wouldn't proceed because they insisted I now had to trade mine in. At that point all trust and confidence was lost and so they eagerly sent me the deposit back. I was given the run around for two years and so I hope the next purchaser has a better experience.
That sounds truly appalling - this is from a company that has raised the "asking" price by nearly £20k in a matter of weeks. Are RG to UK outlet for Target?

SirSagalot

176 posts

182 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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TVRMs said:
First I should say I have had no dealings with RG other than buying 2 small parts, which cost what I was told, were what I had asked for, and were delivered to the right place at the right time…
Two pennenth -I'm surprised that anyone can price a car when the level of finish is still to be determined – other than assuming a very high specification, so POA is probably the correct way to advertise the sale.
If they get a figure close to the 76K they initially asked it would seem reasonable, especially in light of folk asking and seeming to be getting 55K for 30-40K mile models and newer or very low mileage cars selling for over 60K?
Folk that are looking to buy will always complain, those owning or looking to sell should be happy that prices are going up and not down – surely??
That's really the point, everything pretty much had been specified except trim colour and tyre preference. £70k was absolute all inc OTR figure.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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SirSagalot said:
TVRMs said:
First I should say I have had no dealings with RG other than buying 2 small parts, which cost what I was told, were what I had asked for, and were delivered to the right place at the right time…
Two pennenth -I'm surprised that anyone can price a car when the level of finish is still to be determined – other than assuming a very high specification, so POA is probably the correct way to advertise the sale.
If they get a figure close to the 76K they initially asked it would seem reasonable, especially in light of folk asking and seeming to be getting 55K for 30-40K mile models and newer or very low mileage cars selling for over 60K?
Folk that are looking to buy will always complain, those owning or looking to sell should be happy that prices are going up and not down – surely??
That's really the point, everything pretty much had been specified except trim colour and tyre preference. £70k was absolute all inc OTR figure.
It's difficult to understand a situation without knowing all the details. Guess if I was Racing Green and I was under the understanding the pex was coming in as part of the deal with a pre-determined value and the sale price of the car being sold hadn't been adjusted upwards to reflect market prices, I'm afraid I would have suggeted the deal was no longer one I wanted to be involved with and you would have waived good-bye to your deposit.

If it was just an option to pex, looks like they are being greedy and I would be equally upset.