door top seal - D type or P type?

[SergSC]

I mean the one that stops water running down the glass and into the door. My car has the D shape with self adhesive strip, but this is now half hanging off... it not a good look... it seems like its just too thick for the gap, so the friction with the glass has been gradually ripping it off, tried glue a couple times but didnt work for very long.
I expect a brand new one to suffer the same fate, so wondering if I should replace it with the P type seal as fitted to the earlier cars... are they a tad thinner? Maybe less likely to rub so hard against the glass?
If I do get the P type seal, what is the right glue for it?

Thanks
S

[shep1001]

For the main door seals: 6M of ETS58 for the door (+ 2M for the Hoop seal if you have a Tamora) 3M ETS59 for the boot seal on the Tamora. It was much cheaper than buying from the usual TVR parts suppliers last time I ordered some! For the trim along the top edge of the window glass, mounted in the groove of the targa panel its 2M of SRS1905


www.sealsplusdirect.co.uk - They are on ebay too! 0845 2263345


Shep

[SergSC]

I mean the "Weather strip Outer top door seal . Also used at bottom of the door (inside edge) to stop water/dirt from going up the door sill .. Price quoted per metre. Some Late car models used V0020 instead."
Not the top of glass/roof edge.

Considering the P type like this:
http://www.racetechdirect.co.uk/tvr-car-part-v0170...
What glue would you use with this?

My car uses the v0020 type for this, but its just too chunky for this purpose, pushes too hard against the window. D type:
http://www.racetechdirect.co.uk/tvr-car-part-v0020...

But if the P type is just as chunky/tight fitting, then I wont bother with the glue mess and just get the D type as its much more convenient to fit.

[chris watton]

SergSC said:

My car uses the v0020 type for this, but its just too chunky for this purpose, pushes too hard against the window. D type:
http://www.racetechdirect.co.uk/tvr-car-part-v0020...

But if the P type is just as chunky/tight fitting, then I wont bother with the glue mess and just get the D type as its much more convenient to fit.

Not sure about the glue for the first one - Sikaflex perhaps?

For the second seal, I am not sure what size that is, but that looks very expensive on the Racetech link.

I wonder is item number SRS1708 would do from the site Shep linked to:

http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/shopping.asp?intDepar...

This is D-shaped and has self-adhesive backing. I have used it on my Tam.

[SteveSPG]

I've fitted this to mine as i had the same issue with the P or D seal just pulling off with the window. also seemed that most of the water went straight along the top of the D or P seal and into the door anyway

Using this the water for the most part is taken over the top of the door and from inside the car you just see a flocked finish. I've stuck this on with double sided adhesive tape...so far its been fine


http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/flocked-smal...

[darkmark07]

SteveSPG said:

I've fitted this to mine as i had the same issue with the P or D seal just pulling off with the window. also seemed that most of the water went straight along the top of the D or P seal and into the door anyway

Using this the water for the most part is taken over the top of the door and from inside the car you just see a flocked finish. I've stuck this on with double sided adhesive tape...so far its been fine


http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/flocked-smal...

Interesting and thanks for the link - any chance of a photo - especially interested in the 'external' lip to top-of-door interface.

Thanks,

Mark

[shep1001]

Its a new one on me this, maybe I am being thick. Pics in situ please so I can understand where this seal goes & what it is supposed to do...

Shep

[SergSC]

shep1001 said:

Its a new one on me this, maybe I am being thick. Pics in situ please so I can understand where this seal goes & what it is supposed to do...

Shep

See when you are in the car, wind down the window and put your elbow on the door? Your elbow resting on the seal in question

I ordered the ones suggested by SteveSPG since they look like they would stop it recurring, along with the double sided tape.

[SteveSPG]

darkmark07 said:

Interesting and thanks for the link - any chance of a photo - especially interested in the 'external' lip to top-of-door interface.

Thanks,

Mark

i would but my cars at dave the trimmers for a few days...cant find any on the pc either sorry

[darkmark07]

SteveSPG said:

i would but my cars at dave the trimmers for a few days...cant find any on the pc either sorry

As and when you get the chance - no rush

Thanks,

Mark

[SergSC]

Got the new seal on today, the non standard y type ... top tip, dont use the measure of the old rubber seal when cutting the new one!... the old one is streched onto the door. Good thing I bought a spare.
The bad news is my door is a bit bow'ed out apparently, so the seal doesnt make contact with the window in the middle. Will remove and try to reattach at more of an angle tomorrow and double up on the tape. If that doesnt work I'll buy the D type, and replace regularly.

[BuzzBillsberry]

How did you you get on in the end I'm in the same dilemma.... My cars just come back from the paint shop.... I took to the seal off to and the the window mechanism out etc so the paint shop could get in.

I ok with race tech and they don't do the d type anymore....

Regards

Buzz

[chris watton]

I would like to change the door window seals on my car, I have the new seals (had them ages), but it looks like they have to be fixed in place with glue. Something I dare not risk doing myself. I thought the seals would have self adhesive backing on them..

[SteveSPG]

you can get them with self adhesive tape on...

[SergSC]

yeah its double sided tape.

I got some of what SteveSPG suggested. But on my car they dont ermm... seal in the middle, fine at either end... its like my door is warped outward in the middle. There isn't a consistent gap end to end.
D or P get ripped Off by window going up and down because they are too tight on the ends. Next time I go there (managed to scalpel my finger last time) I'll mod the D or P to taper at the ends... its THE ONLY WAY, for me. Just pray for my fingers.

[chris watton]

SteveSPG said:

you can get them with self adhesive tape on...

You wouldn't happen to have a link at hand, would you?

[SergSC]

chris watton said:

You wouldn't happen to have a link at hand, would you?

I got it from Steve's original link above

[chris watton]

SergSC said:

chris watton said:

You wouldn't happen to have a link at hand, would you?

I got it from Steve's original link above

Ah, thanks - can't see for looking!

It looks completely different to what's on there at the moment, though..

[chris watton]

I ordered the strip from the link Steve shared. When it arrives, is it just a case of taking off the old window strip, cleaning the surface and then applying the new strip, or is it more involved than that?

[SergSC]

chris watton said:

I ordered the strip from the link Steve shared. When it arrives, is it just a case of taking off the old window strip, cleaning the surface and then applying the new strip, or is it more involved than that?

Thats it, but clean it real good. And don't chop your digits like I do