Joining the Sagaris fold

Joining the Sagaris fold

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OutlawFlat4

697 posts

147 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Probably black....

geordieexpat

482 posts

192 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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So there are now 3-4 white Sags, I got mine changed from black to TVR flip white which has green, blue and purple in it when you look at in different angles

I got the wheels done matt black after chatting with some TVR friends, when I did the white thought it maybe a unique colour - may 1-2 more would go for it

Might look at something more outrageous or leave it alone as I kind a like it in white

T4NGO

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384 posts

236 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Well mine wont be white for long lol. Will be changing soon. Going to try the red-orang/gold chameleon on it I think soon. So you should be ok with your white for a bit.
But, I then think and I got some really good new purple and blue to try out. Hmmmm...

T4NGO

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384 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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It's finally started. Hopefully I have perfected the Cascade Indigo..... Not sure till I try it though on a full car, so might as well be the one I want it on! Looks good on speed shapes, but won't get the full effect till finished. So as usual for chameleons, black base first. That's how far I got yesterday, as it's so cold, it takes an age to flash off between coats.
Still having trouble with n/s mirror. Bolt 100% seized in and cannot get it out. Seems a previous owner strugglerd too as the hex is now round (before I attempted!). So, mirror in the way of access and can't get mirror off to get access.... catch 22.

Anyway, so far;




Quite like it matte black actually smile

Gonna leave the front and rear splitters black. If I think looks crap, I can remove again and colour them if needed.



OutlawFlat4

697 posts

147 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Watching this with interest...

T4NGO

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384 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Quick look at it. Should all be done and back on its wheels tomorrow. Constant stream of customers kept progress slow today. Should look good though. Seems to be fairly close to Cascade Indigo smile

http://youtu.be/Q4vwzWB8buQ

PGNCerbera

2,930 posts

166 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Right, I'm coming to see you!

Will call tomorrow

OutlawFlat4

697 posts

147 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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T4NGO said:
Quick look at it. Should all be done and back on its wheels tomorrow. Constant stream of customers kept progress slow today. Should look good though. Seems to be fairly close to Cascade Indigo smile

http://youtu.be/Q4vwzWB8buQ
Looks great! I will also be calling you in Jan

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Good effort, but looks a little too dull to me and does not seem to capture the light so well.

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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alex_gray255 said:
Good effort, but looks a little too dull to me and does not seem to capture the light so well.
Alex, he probably still needs to machine buff it and wax it, that will enhance further.

OutlawFlat4

697 posts

147 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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ShiDevil said:
Alex, he probably still needs to machine buff it and wax it, that will enhance further.
It's not paint, but Plastidip, a rubber coating that can be peeled off at anytime to return it to the original paint. It is Matt by design so cannot be polished and will not be shiny.


alex_gray255

6,313 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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OutlawFlat4 said:
It's not paint, but Plastidip, a rubber coating that can be peeled off at anytime to return it to the original paint. It is Matt by design so cannot be polished and will not be shiny.
Yup. I know it is. The Sag comes to our local meet a lot so have seen it in the flesh. biggrin

But the true effect of the cascade colours come from the way they react to different sun light and other lights which is why I think it will be a hamper if not able to emulate.


OutlawFlat4

697 posts

147 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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alex_gray255 said:
Yup. I know it is. The Sag comes to our local meet a lot so have seen it in the flesh. biggrin

But the true effect of the cascade colours come from the way they react to different sun light and other lights which is why I think it will be a hamper if not able to emulate.
I was answering ShiDevils comment about machine polishing it to a shine.... I do agree with you about how well it can emulate the cascade colours of paint.

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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alex_gray255 said:
OutlawFlat4 said:
It's not paint, but Plastidip, a rubber coating that can be peeled off at anytime to return it to the original paint. It is Matt by design so cannot be polished and will not be shiny.
Yup. I know it is. The Sag comes to our local meet a lot so have seen it in the flesh. biggrin

But the true effect of the cascade colours come from the way they react to different sun light and other lights which is why I think it will be a hamper if not able to emulate.
Why not wait and see it in the flesh before judging? Alan did my Chim in a subtle reflex (chameleon ) purple a few weeks ago, and it certainly changes colour nicely as you walk around the car. And for the cost (well under £1000 on my car) it was a good deal, as no way could I afford a full respray in reflex paint.

T4NGO

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384 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Woe, go away for a couple hours and mayhem! lol

Ok, this vid is a crappy chunky vid. The car isn't finished yet.

No flatting, polishing, colour sanding or anything. It is what it is. And that is rubber. It's not paint, never will be and not trying to be. It is a coating that protects your car, just happens if you play around with the stuff you can change the colour of it too smile
There are NO formula's, no colour codes or anything, its just a gigantic experiment and fun. I love the stuff. But unlike paint it is removable and leaves no trace of it behind without using a single piece of sandpaper. I took it back to original colour before re-coating it in about 2 1/2 hours.

So tomorrow once dried and cured, I will peel from lights, windows, refit mirror and drop back onto wheels. Then when I pull it outside I will do a decent quality vid.

Now for the record, chameleons do not react to light. This is why you do a black base, as the pigments allow some light through and the black absorbs it and doesn't return the light. This gives it the colours you see. Completely the opposite to candies. Which go over a silver (sometimes gold) base. The light goes through the pigment and reflects off the silver through the colour. That is why they look so nice as gives them a kinda backlit look. Easiest way I can explain it. Whereas chameleons absorb.
So the Cascade Indigo on the TVR's do all this, but you also get a reflection from the lacquer, this gives it a different look, but that is just a reflection. So if you park next to something red, then everything that side has a redder tinge because of the reflection etc.. These are a semi matt finish (satin I guess) so will have a different look. BUT the purple to blue to mauve to red to gold to orange to yellow will still be there. It's NOT cascade indigo, but my version of it. It has the characteristics of it when you look at it ie gold on top, purple on sides, move around and all sides are gold but front corner is blue / purple. So in that respect its cascade indigo. I guess we will see tomorrow once out in the real world smile

This is not for the purists or bufty boys, but as protection its awesome. I truly love this stuff, I am experimenting with some new non plastidip from USA and its even better.

yanmar

276 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Good answer, watching with interest, hope it's what you want to achieve.

yanmar

276 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Good answer, watching with interest, hope it's what you want to achieve.

yanmar

276 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Good answer, watching with interest, hope it's what you want to achieve.

yanmar

276 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Good answer, watching with interest, hope it's what you want to achieve.

yanmar

276 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Good knows what's happening