Help Needed For Broken Down Tamora

Help Needed For Broken Down Tamora

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J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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GazzaM100 said:
Thanks for the links to the Alternators and also any information. I assumed it must be a common problem as so many mentioned it. Just wonder why such a large fuse could blow, surely that means there is a problem somewhere else?

So if this fuse has blown will it stop my car from charging using the trickle charger. Because its been on for nearly 48 hrs and still totally dead.

Hoping to look at it properly tomorrow if I get away from work early enough.

Monty, any idea what size socket you taped up, so I can do that tonight in preparation for tomorrow?
The fuse in question very rarely blows, most common is for it to get a stress crack in it that eventually fails rather than blowing due to excess current.The ceramic ones don't suffer the same problem as the flat bladed originals do.
Once the voltage drops below about 10V the ECUs shut down.
Trickle charger are designed to keep batteries topped up not to recharge them when they have been drained, unfortunately there is a good chance the battery will need replacing but a battery charger may be able to get it back up to some form of reasonable health.

GTRene

16,599 posts

225 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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J12KJR said:
Trickle charger are designed to keep batteries topped up not to recharge them when they have been drained, unfortunately there is a good chance the battery will need replacing but a battery charger may be able to get it back up to some form of reasonable health.
some chargers have also a special option to recharge empty batteries or do a deep charge like the MXS 5 from Ctek, at least thats what the document says it can do.

mk1fan

10,523 posts

226 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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For a replacement battery I found the Yuasa YBX 3069 fit Tamy just fine and dandy.

Tonto

2,983 posts

249 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Make sure you disconnect the battery terminals and re-connect them to the new battery in the right order, or you can cause all sorts of problems, like blowing up the digital dash.
Go on, ask me how I know !!!!!

J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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GTRene said:
J12KJR said:
Trickle charger are designed to keep batteries topped up not to recharge them when they have been drained, unfortunately there is a good chance the battery will need replacing but a battery charger may be able to get it back up to some form of reasonable health.
some chargers have also a special option to recharge empty batteries or do a deep charge like the MXS 5 from Ctek, at least thats what the document says it can do.
OK in the main trickle chargers are for keeping a battery topped up and not for recharging them so to the OP if your trickle charger doesn't have that facility you will probably be fighting a losing battle.

GazzaM100

Original Poster:

209 posts

139 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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I've borrowed another battery and I'm going to do what the RAC man did and connect it via the jump leads and leave it in my passenger footwell so I can drive it 5 mins to my Lotus specialist who I trust to do this fix.

Is there any order I need to connect jump leads to spare battery?

Tamster.

534 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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GazzaM100 said:
I've borrowed another battery and I'm going to do what the RAC man did and connect it via the jump leads and leave it in my passenger footwell so I can drive it 5 mins to my Lotus specialist who I trust to do this fix.

Is there any order I need to connect jump leads to spare battery?
Ensure you get the polarity the correct way round, another thing to check is the 80 amp fuse behind the passenger footwell carpet, if blown this may be the reason why the charger is not supplying current to the battery, depends on where the charger output has been hard wired into, hope you get it fixed soon and start enjoying this lovely dry weather! smile

GazzaM100

Original Poster:

209 posts

139 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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The latest update is that I borrowed a battery & battery booster and basically did what the RAC man did using the jump leads. Was able to start and drive it to my local garage without to many problems.
They are going to change the 100 amp fuse for starters and check condition of the alternator & battery.

One question I have is why can't I shut my drivers door? It's as if it's locked open but the lock mechanism on the car body is movable, suggesting it's unlocked. Passenger side is fine though. So had to drive while holding door pulled closed 😏

Ando74

90 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Have you used the manual door release at all when you've been having these issues? Could be sticky?
Does it make any noise like trying to open, sticky mirror switch?, or is it just dead and unlocked. Solenoid goosed?

I guess there a few options really, some of which can hopefully be fettled with a can of WD40!.....

GazzaM100

Original Poster:

209 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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I did try the manual door release in the boot but only after it started playing up. Will inform garage though.
Don't think drivers door was making any noise when pushing the button under the wing mirror whereas passenger side was and working fine..

Going to deal with it once it's all up and running which hopefully only looks like a broken alternator belt.

jev

384 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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There are manual pull openers in the cabin as well. For the driver side under the dash flush on the right hand side in the foot well. Should be a red pull.


GazzaM100

Original Poster:

209 posts

139 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The offending item, one shredded and snapped alternator belt!
Car is all up and running but did require a new battery as well.
As for the drivers door, turns out the solenoid is deceased. So while they wait for that to come in, I'm having both steering gaiters replaced as they were split. Showed up on inspection before buying.
Then I'm having the car Geo'd. Hoping to have a sorted Tamora by Monday evening

Thanks again for all the help

Edited by GazzaM100 on Friday 21st November 10:51

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,261 posts

236 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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GazzaM100 said:


The offending item, one shredded and snapped alternator belt!
Car is all up and running but did require a new battery as well.
As for the drivers door, turns out the solenoid is deceased. So while they wait for that to come in, I'm having both steering gaiters replaced as they were split. Showed up on inspection before buying.
Then I'm having the car Geo'd. Hoping to have a sorted Tamora by Monday evening

Thanks again for all the help

Edited by GazzaM100 on Friday 21st November 10:51
Result!

twinreal

300 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Wouldn't that be the first to investigate by RAC ?? No one here had this on the "list" as you can see clearly when looking under the bonnet !

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

232 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Glad you've got to the bottom of it. At least your up and running now....don't let it put you off ownership tho' they are highly strung cars and do need an eye keeping on them....

Enjoy

Buzz

K4TRV

1,819 posts

253 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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twinreal said:
Wouldn't that be the first to investigate by RAC ?? No one here had this on the "list" as you can see clearly when looking under the bonnet !
"Clearly be seen???

Not on the T cars - the airbox completely blocks any sight of the Alternator and it's belt.

I would not expect an RAC engineer, on the side of the road, to unclip/unbolt and remove the airbox to check the alternator belt!! Unless of course he had done it before, so clearly he had not !!

Glad he's got it sorted.

T

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

232 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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But you can get your hand in to check the tightness of the belt which any home mechanic would do if you had an issue with charging ...after checking the dash voltage indicator.... he would then have discovered the issue

Buzz

twinreal

300 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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+1

First thing to check when Voltage is too low is the alternator belt. So you open the bonnet and locate the alternator.
If the RAC engineer tells me that he cannot check the belt because he can't find the alternator then i wish him a nice day and call an engineer !

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

232 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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.biggrinclap

Buzz

GazzaM100

Original Poster:

209 posts

139 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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I've been a Lotus man for the last 16 years so I'm used to temperamental cars. I don't rely on a car to get to work, so this is just my weekend toy and garage queen lol

Very impressed so far with the parts availability from TVR Parts. I've sold £5,000 worth of parts I had stored for the Elan. Was hoping to get £2,000 but obviously parts are obsolete are getting hard to get hold of. Sold 2 secondhand 16" wheels for £900, door seal for £320 and a steering wheel very similar to the Tamora's for nearly £500.

I was very happy with the RAC, first time I've used them after being with the AA for 20 odd years. RAC van man got me off the M4 hard shoulder using the jump leads connected through the passenger window to a new battery. He did look for the Alternator but said he couldn't see it but was looking in the right place. He was so close to the inside lane I was worried for him!!!
Once the tow truck was called no more work was attempted. Was just glad to get it of the motorway. Didn't help between us we had 45 minutes of Tamora knowledge lol