TVR Power 4.3 here I come - great deal!

TVR Power 4.3 here I come - great deal!

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chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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SergSC said:
I have a looong way to go to get to Coventry, so by the time I'm back in Scotland I'm already a third of the way there mileage wise, another third doing daily driving, and add the last third from the trip down... wink Just hope the mix of motorway and town driving is correct for a good running in process.

Btw is it actually temporarily rev limited to 3.5K (my daily drive tends to be this anyway), or are you wearing a Ski boot to restrict ankle movement, or sheer will power? smile
No, the revs aren't electronically limited - am truly sick of short shifting now and having to keep one eye on the rev counter all of the time! hehe

It still revs so freely it is easy to go over. I had always assumed the engine would be less free-revving, based on what I had read, but no.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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It must have been in a really bad state before the rebuild then laugh

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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mk1fan said:
It must have been in a really bad state before the rebuild then laugh
+1 laugh

billynobrakes

2,675 posts

265 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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chris watton said:
No, the revs aren't electronically limited - am truly sick of short shifting now and having to keep one eye on the rev counter all of the time! hehe

It still revs so freely it is easy to go over. I had always assumed the engine would be less free-revving, based on what I had read, but no.
Your going to be in for a treat if you haven't gone over 3500 revs wink

chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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billynobrakes said:
chris watton said:
No, the revs aren't electronically limited - am truly sick of short shifting now and having to keep one eye on the rev counter all of the time! hehe

It still revs so freely it is easy to go over. I had always assumed the engine would be less free-revving, based on what I had read, but no.
Your going to be in for a treat if you haven't gone over 3500 revs wink
Cannot wait!

SergSC

508 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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chris watton said:
It still revs so freely it is easy to go over. I had always assumed the engine would be less free-revving, based on what I had read, but no.
When people say 'free revving' I think they are really talking about how fast revs drop/rise when in neutral, or drop coming off throttle. I guess its a feeling of eagerness, but at the end of the day this doesnt amount to much does it? I mean, if the car accelerates faster because there is more power and gearing is the same, then surely this is because revs are rising faster too. What do we call that? biggrin

iirc you have the lightweight flywheel as well? Maybe that is helping induce that 'eagerness' as well. I got one too when the clutch went.

Sounds like you will be having a lot of fun v soon biggrin

Now back to looking for much needed cash to throw at this thing...

chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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SergSC said:
When people say 'free revving' I think they are really talking about how fast revs drop/rise when in neutral, or drop coming off throttle. I guess its a feeling of eagerness, but at the end of the day this doesnt amount to much does it? I mean, if the car accelerates faster because there is more power and gearing is the same, then surely this is because revs are rising faster too. What do we call that? biggrin

iirc you have the lightweight flywheel as well? Maybe that is helping induce that 'eagerness' as well. I got one too when the clutch went.

Sounds like you will be having a lot of fun v soon biggrin

Now back to looking for much needed cash to throw at this thing...
Yes, it's how fast the revs drop/rise and how the revs rise when the throttle is pressed - so have said it's slightly more 'lazy' like a V8, but I haven't experienced that. It's like the old S6 but better.

I have Powers' lightweight flywheel, but cannot comment on any difference because I had so much done/upgraded at the same time. I doubt it makes a big difference, though.

Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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chris watton said:
Yes, it's how fast the revs drop/rise and how the revs rise when the throttle is pressed - so have said it's slightly more 'lazy' like a V8, but I haven't experienced that. It's like the old S6 but better.

I have Powers' lightweight flywheel, but cannot comment on any difference because I had so much done/upgraded at the same time. I doubt it makes a big difference, though.
Sorry, but it's a massive difference.

chris watton

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260 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Don1 said:
chris watton said:
Yes, it's how fast the revs drop/rise and how the revs rise when the throttle is pressed - so have said it's slightly more 'lazy' like a V8, but I haven't experienced that. It's like the old S6 but better.

I have Powers' lightweight flywheel, but cannot comment on any difference because I had so much done/upgraded at the same time. I doubt it makes a big difference, though.
Sorry, but it's a massive difference.
I guess that would depend where you bought the flywheel from.

Are you talking about Powers' or someone else's?

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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is same same as lightened. you can take the standard one and lighten it. will do the job.
you can take the clutch assembly and lighten that too.

hopefully rest means engine wise had been balanced well otherwise soso decission

Edited by gacksen on Thursday 21st May 08:52

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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gacksen said:
is same same as lightened. you can take the standard one and lighten it. will do the job.
you can take the clutch assembly and lighten that too.

hopefully rest means engine wise had been balanced well otherwise soso decission

Edited by gacksen on Thursday 21st May 08:52
The racing green flywheel is totally different to the powers flywheel, which looks like a machined standard one. I don't believe You could machine a standard one to the level the RG one is, you'd compromise structural strength.

Like Don says, it makes a massive difference.


Edited by m4tti on Thursday 21st May 09:18


Edited by m4tti on Thursday 21st May 09:23

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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m4tti said:
The racing green flywheel is totally different to the powers flywheel, which looks like a machines standard one. I don't believe You could machined a standard one to the level the RG one is, you'd compromise structural strength.

Like Don says, it makes a massive difference.


Edited by m4tti on Thursday 21st May 09:18
havent seen the RG one up to date...... would worry more about the occuring imbalance when using one

@chris

now i do understand your point as you have a lightend one. if you compare standard flyhweel to lightend one it will
be a night and day difference. my comparisons with engines had been standard to standard.

Edited by gacksen on Thursday 21st May 09:29

ThommoHawk

30 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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I've had the pleasure of driving a few big engined lightweight cars on track and road inc a 66 v8 Griff and I also believe that a lightened flywheel can have a massive effect. One such car with an all alloy bored & stroked Ford V8 subsequently had a 'skeletal' alloy flywheel and small 7" triple plate clutch fitted in place of the somewhat huge steel affair that normally carried a full Mustang sized clutch assembly and it dramatically changed the driving characteristics imho. Pick up at any rpm was much much sharper and deceleration also was markedly different.(improved!)

It was eventually a bit of a pig to drive on the road in traffic though, as the clutch was almost on or off in operation. Too few revs and she'd stall, not even labour and a few too many and she'd leave big black 'II's all over the place. wink between 3000 & 7900 she was a beast and was still the best to drive on track (esp on wide slicks).

Congratulations on your conversion - sounds a blast. !!

m4tti

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155 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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gacksen said:
havent seen the RG one up to date...... would worry more about the occuring imbalance when using one

@chris

now i do understand your point as you have a lightend one. if you compare standard flyhweel to lightend one it will
be a night and day difference. my comparisons with engines had been standard to standard.

Edited by gacksen on Thursday 21st May 09:29
Not particularly worried, out sourced rotating assembly balancing to Julian Godfrey Motorsport biggrin

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Don1 said:
chris watton said:
slightly more 'lazy' like a V8, but I haven't experienced that. It's like the old S6 but better.
Not sure were people are getting this from, have you been in an LS "T" car, is traction not an issue




gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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m4tti said:
Not particularly worried, out sourced rotating assembly balancing to Julian Godfrey Motorsport biggrin
good decision for the health of your engine biggrin bad decision for the rebuilder outfit to earn some bucks laugh

SergSC

508 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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I reckon the lightweight flywheel made my standard 3.6 ~25% 'freer' smile

chris watton

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22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Well, I dropped the Tam off this morning for its post run-in service, new (and different size) tyres and geo set up and MOT.

Am hoping this is the last visit for a while...

jrb43

797 posts

255 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Are you joking? You're Dom's pension plan wink

Andy_mr2sc

1,223 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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jrb43 said:
Are you joking? You're Dom's pension plan wink
Oh god don't say that. The thread on General Gossip only stopped a couple of hrs ago!!