Sagaris buying advice required

[Lotus E300S]

Rocco1 said:

Lotus E300S said:

And let's not forget when the Sagaris was released it was up against the Ferrari 360 and 996 GT3,

The Sag was quicker than the 360 (big disappointment) and 96 Gt3 I tested, to compare it with 458s, 991 Gt3s etc is a little unfair, it's 10 years old now remember.

Where is this going i did not say this and neither did GreenBangit
I did not buy it for speed i bought it for its stunning looks all else is a bonus

When your mate got on his high horse and stated we should try driving proper fast cars like Ferraris etc

[Rocco1]

What oil is a preference of choice for a Sag 5/30 5/40 5/50' 0/40 10/40 ???

[greenbandit641]

Lotus E300S said:

When your mate got on his high horse and stated we should try driving proper fast cars like Ferraris etc

Just so im not being harsh on the Sag i stopped off at Preston and met up with the 'green bandit' now he can drive!
His face lit up when i pulled into Tickled Trout,he said i heard you before i saw you!!
He said wow what a looker,what a colour and was impressed,i handed him over the keys,15 mins later he reappears with a big grin.We both agreed its not the quickest car in the stable yet i didnt buy it for that :-)
So all in all its okay,not the quickest,very sensitive,very noisy keeps you focused no margin for error,but for me and its a very big BUT its the looks that appeal to me next the colour and the sound after that all the rest is academic,think i can just about live with that :-)

You may want to digest what Rocco said about the Sag after driving it 350 miles, i have copied and pasted his post to save you time. Why are you saying I got on my high horse when it was Rocco that made the comment? I agreed with what he said that it wasn't the fastest in his stable.

[m4tti]

greenbandit641 said:

Just so im not being harsh on the Sag i stopped off at Preston and met up with the 'green bandit' now he can drive!
His face lit up when i pulled into Tickled Trout,he said i heard you before i saw you!!
He said wow what a looker,what a colour and was impressed,i handed him over the keys,15 mins later he reappears with a big grin.We both agreed its not the quickest car in the stable yet i didnt buy it for that :-)
So all in all its okay,not the quickest,very sensitive,very noisy keeps you focused no margin for error,but for me and its a very big BUT its the looks that appeal to me next the colour and the sound after that all the rest is academic,think i can just about live with that :-)

You may want to digest what Rocco said about the Sag after driving it 350 miles, i have copied and pasted his post to save you time. Why are you saying I got on my high horse when it was Rocco that made the comment? I agreed with what he said that it wasn't the fastest in his stable.

What's odd is looking through your post history over the last month, all of them have resulted in some form of inflammatory remark and conflict With other established members. Strange.... Maybe close this one here and move on folks.

[Rocco1]

How much engine oil does a Sag use
My past experience in other cars is 1 litre per 1000/1500 miles also what oil do you guys use

[greenbandit641]

m4tti said:

What's odd is looking through your post history over the last month, all of them have resulted in some form of inflammatory remark and conflict With other established members. Strange.... Maybe close this one here and move on folks.

If I have upset anyone on this forum I would like to apologise as I never intended to as I'm not like that in the least, I guess the banter we have in our car group doesn't carry over to the Piston Heads forum, and writing something isn't always interpreted in the way you write it.
I don't recall saying anything derogatory about TVR's either but again, if anyone thinks I have then I apologise again for that too, I like anything that has an engine.
Anything that I have posted on other forums was lighthearted banter, or at least it was meant to be but maybe wasn't taken that Way.
I would like to think that we can put a lid on this once and for all, we are all adults that share the same interests.

Thank you

[Lotus E300S]

Rocco1 said:

What oil is a preference of choice for a Sag 5/30 5/40 5/50' 0/40 10/40 ???

Mobil 1 15/50, mine has more miles than yours, under normal driving doesn't burn any, hard driving around a litre every 1000 miles, with your mileage 10/40 would probably be better.

[Rocco1]

Lotus E300S said:

Mobil 1 15/50, mine has more miles than yours, under normal driving doesn't burn any, hard driving around a litre every 1000 miles, with your mileage 10/40 would probably be better.

Thank you :-)

[billynobrakes]

I use 10/40 semi synthetic as recommended by powers in my 4.5

[Zippee]

10/40 semi syn. Mine doesn't use a drop since its rebuild but still need to check every 1000 or so just in case.

[anonymous-user]

Rocco1 said:

How much engine oil does a Sag use
My past experience in other cars is 1 litre per 1000/1500 miles also what oil do you guys use

Tony,
The S6 can go between services without using a drop but the consumption you state above would not a worry.

If you were to try it on track and subject it to very hard use, they will drink between 0.5-1.0 litres in a day (that's using around almost two tanks of fuel.

I've always used 15/50 Mobil fully synthetic. Not had any engine problems.

Hope you have fun with the car and it settles in well in your stable.

I'm sure Graham went through the importance of the warming up process with you when you bought it?

[Englishman]

Zippee said:

10/40 semi syn. Mine doesn't use a drop since its rebuild but still need to check every 1000 or so just in case.

+1

[chris watton]

I am sure you need to use 10/40 semi synthetic if the engine is still under Dom's warranty - using anything else may invalidate it.

[Zippee]

chris watton said:

I am sure you need to use 10/40 semi synthetic if the engine is still under Dom's warranty - using anything else may invalidate it.

Correct.

[8nil]

Rocco1 said:

Thank you :-)

Knowing that Str8Six built your engine, I would give them a quick call to ask. I know that Jason uses Mobil as standard, but may use different grades depending on the engine type, age and condition.

It may also be on the invoices from HHC or Str8six that Hollowpockets would have handed over as part of the sale.

Yours
8nil

[Lotus E300S]

Rocco1 said:

Sag is not qiucker than a 360.I can support my claim

Hi Rocco,

Not trying to pick a fight but I'm very surprised by your claim above, I've tested a few 360s like I said before and been very disappointed with the performance of them, certainly not as quick as my standard Sag, a good friend owns a Rolling Road and he says they typically make around 350bhp, my Sag made 367bhp.

They also weigh 200kg more than a Sagaris so that added with the real bhp of them backs up how disappointing they were.

Now you have a 4.3 that should be good for 400bhp and with more torque than the standard Sag engine so something doesn't add up???

Like I said not looking for a fight.

[chris watton]

Lotus E300S said:

Hi Rocco,

Not trying to pick a fight but I'm very surprised by your claim above, I've tested a few 360s like I said before and been very disappointed with the performance of them, certainly not as quick as my standard Sag, a good friend owns a Rolling Road and he says they typically make around 350bhp, my Sag made 367bhp.

They also weigh 200kg more than a Sagaris so that added with the real bhp of them backs up how disappointing they were.

Now you have a 4.3 that should be good for 400bhp and with more torque than the standard Sag engine so something doesn't add up???

Like I said not looking for a fight.

The S6 is very smooth in its power delivery, deceptively so.

[tvrtuscans]

8nil said:

Rocco1 said:

Thank you :-)

Knowing that Str8Six built your engine, I would give them a quick call to ask. I know that Jason uses Mobil as standard, but may use different grades depending on the engine type, age and condition.

It may also be on the invoices from HHC or Str8six that Hollowpockets would have handed over as part of the sale.

Yours
8nil

Jason at Str8six has always advised me to use Mobil 1 0W-40 Fully Synthetic. The Sagaris has 29,000 on the clock and the T350T 26,000. The Sagaris engine is a low compression SP6 4ltr S, and generally doesnt seem to burn much oil at all...though on our recent 2,500 road trip to Italy, I used something like 3 litres...mind you I lost 5th gear after 400 miles so did most of the trip using 4 fwd gears and it has to be said, the unit was working 'fairly hard'!! The T350T has the SP6 4ltr S engine; this engine was significantly breathed on by the factory and the car goes like stink, but it does seem to consume 'much more' oil than the Sagaris....I keep a close eye on the levels in both.

We all know what a palava it is to check the oil levels on a SP6 engine....run it up to 60 Deg bla bla. I did ask a very well known TVR specialist if there was a short cut to checking the oil levels with the unit cold. Answer...ensure the car is on the level and the oil should just be touching the very bottom of the dip stick. I have been using this method for the last year. Obviously I'm not recommending it to others, its up to you as it were, but just incase you were curious....

Enjoy your car Rocco, it looks fab.

[Ernie321]

Had a fantastic drive out today with Rocco,greenbandit and co round the evo triangle what a great bunch of guys and they can really drive they left me for dead no chance of keeping up with them in my little tamora I now want a powers 4.3 and new shocks
Looking forward too the next drive out
Thanks again for making me feel welcome into your group

[crimbo]

Looks a great day