Looking for the right Sagaris

Looking for the right Sagaris

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anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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Legacywr said:
Thenyou may not have any idea about passion for cars? We're all different don't forget.
I think I may have a reasonable idea about passion for cars, having owned 130+ of them and not a single fast ford unless you include a mk2 Lotus Cortina.

60k+ for any fast ford - just not for me.

Like you said, we're all different and like I suggested, it's my opinion, don't need to be the same as every one else, something I'm sure you understand with your eclectic collection. smile


Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 6th July 20:12

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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[quote=TVRMs]

having owned 130+ of them

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Christ John, you must have owned some crap then smile

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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I've had cars I could afford and cars I couldn't.

Have I had crap cars?

Everyone's different but given the opportunity to own 15-20% of the cars we've owned for a second time around, we'd probably decline LOL

Some cars I'd love to own second time around but wouldn't pay what folk are asking, but I think I'm happy with what we have now or are awaiting delivery of smile

10 Cars I wished I'd kept?

1965 Griffith 400
1972 Clan Crusader
1978 TVR 3000S Turbo
1987 390SE
1988 Integrale
1987 Testarossa
1990 BMW M3 EVO (2.5)
1988 911 Turbo
2003 996 Turbo
2005 Sagaris



Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 6th July 20:36

TorquetiveOne

8 posts

130 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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I see this beauty has now come up for sale. Not surprised at the price - the Sag has truly become a modern classic and its desirability/relative scarcity will surely drive prices higher. Only 3 for sale right now? Owners hanging on to see what they're worth after the new car is revealed no doubt . . .

TorquetiveOne said:
Alan_D350 said:
+1 for this if it's still available. I've already mentioned it to someone else looking and no doubt others have too. It looked great condition and Woody spoke highly of it (and mentioned it was unmodified too). As I understand it's not been advertised as the owner was considering whether to sell. Give Woody a call... If you like the colour I doubt you'd be wasting your time.

[edit] I think it's the one in this FB post: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=...

Edited by Alan_D350 on Sunday 15th May 12:04
Yes, that's the one. Great looking car and a nice plate. I was told it was a bit special - not sure why in particular.

Legacywr

12,017 posts

187 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Currently, there are no cars in any main classified sites!

Cars are being offered behind the scene, so I'm lead to believe!? 😊

Sagbrit

188 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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That one at Mole Valley wont go away even though it was sold months ago!

Legacywr

12,017 posts

187 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Ah, none of them were showing yesterday?

Sagbrit

188 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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The black Sag at Bespoke now sold. Only 1 Sag currently for sale at £72k....

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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I wonder what a very nice genuine original Sag would sell for, pound notes?

Not anything other than mint as it left the factory??

Emphasis on very nice genuine original, not blown and bling... Guess it would be a big number?

Legacywr

12,017 posts

187 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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I have no idea wether the market is being driven by supply, or demand at the moment?

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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TVRMs said:
I wonder what a very nice genuine original Sag would sell for, pound notes?

Not anything other than mint as it left the factory??

Emphasis on very nice genuine original, not blown and bling... Guess it would be a big number?
John , Do you think a car with the original crappy PAS bracket, or plastic washer bottle, or nasty door strikers or non ceramic coated manifolds is worth more than one that has been improved?
PS Good job I kept the rusty originals .. I must re-install them before I sell smile
I've got lots of original rusty nuts and bolts rather than stainless that I'll refit too.

Edited by glow worm on Saturday 30th July 22:15

TorquetiveOne

8 posts

130 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Make that none for sale. The £72.5k one seems to have gone. Not surprised at all.

Sagbrit said:
The black Sag at Bespoke now sold. Only 1 Sag currently for sale at £72k....

TorquetiveOne

8 posts

130 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Pushing £80k, no doubt. The thing is they are no longer 'just used cars'. Sagarais's are now very 'collectible' and a collector will always pay a premium for originality, regardless of whether original standards have been bettered by today's. This in turn will help pull up the values of original examples of other TVRs, with scarcity being the other major factor. We can debate the merits of this but we can't deny market forces. Frankly, if I owned any TVR I'd be pretty happy right now.

TVRMs said:
I wonder what a very nice genuine original Sag would sell for, pound notes?

Not anything other than mint as it left the factory??

Emphasis on very nice genuine original, not blown and bling... Guess it would be a big number?

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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TorquetiveOne said:
Pushing £80k, no doubt. The thing is they are no longer 'just used cars'. Sagarais's are now very 'collectible' and a collector will always pay a premium for originality, regardless of whether original standards have been bettered by today's. This in turn will help pull up the values of original examples of other TVRs, with scarcity being the other major factor. We can debate the merits of this but we can't deny market forces. Frankly, if I owned any TVR I'd be pretty happy right now.

TVRMs said:
I wonder what a very nice genuine original Sag would sell for, pound notes?

Not anything other than mint as it left the factory??

Emphasis on very nice genuine original, not blown and bling... Guess it would be a big number?
I agree you, I think £80-85 as the cars that come into that category are rare.

Kieth,
What you were describing is what I called (tongue in cheek) blown and bling wink

I'm not suggesting that what you have done has not improved your car and I have no doubt that it will be sought after by the majority of potential purchasers, it will however be looked at by a real collector as something that needs to be "put right" smile


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 31st July 07:36

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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So is a car WITHOUT an engine rebuild worth more than one with a rebuild ? should I stay with an original half time bearing rather than an improved one ? Mine has still got its original tyres (probably not a good idea since they're 10 years old) getmecoatsmile

Edited by glow worm on Sunday 31st July 08:07

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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glow worm said:
So is a car WITHOUT an engine rebuild worth more than one with a rebuild ? should I stay with an original half time bearing rather than an improved one ?
If your car needed a rebuild then you did the right thing, if you wanted to bling your car up, with a 4.3 or a 4.5 you probably made it more attractive to the normal punter.

Is rebuilding a car engine when it's not required a sensible thing to do - guess it depends on the owner, but he will be less well off as a result as the car will not be now worth more than the sum of the parts...

If it had a standard rebuild that would be more of a plus point to a collector.

I've deliberately avoided assuring your question as I don't need an online argument with some that clearly has a different opinion. Don't you have breakfast to cook or cars to polish smile

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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When I think of the term 'Blinging a Car', I don't think of better engine internals (the outer engine looks exactly the same), but surely 'Blinging' means adding extra body kit froth or wholly inappropriate wheels.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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I don't mean bling in a bad way Chris maybe adornments maybe more appropriate smile

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 31st July 11:01

Englishman

2,215 posts

209 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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glow worm said:
original crappy PAS bracket, plastic washer bottle, nasty (opinion) door strikers, non ceramic coated manifolds...
Sounds like mine smile

except the originals are not rusty after 32K miles. Oh my engine is original, powerful and very sweet according to the experts.


anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Englishman said:
glow worm said:
original crappy PAS bracket, plastic washer bottle, nasty (opinion) door strikers, non ceramic coated manifolds...
Sounds like mine smile

except the originals are not rusty after 32K miles. Oh my engine is original, powerful and very sweet according to the experts.
smile