Where have all the Sags gone????

[Rocco1]

As the title.....where have all the Sags gone,none for sale,am i missing something??
Have they really become that sought after???

[glow worm]

Only factory originals Tony

[Rocco1]

glow worm said:

Only factory originals Tony

Of Course silly me!!!
Do you mean the ones that left the factory with chocolate engines????

[anonymous-user]

Try and do your research before you post nonsense Tony, and if it's a wind-up, it's in bad taste.

Perpetuating a myth that all Sags that haven't had a rebuild need one does the majority of owners no favours.

Kieth try having a day off being an arse

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st August 21:07

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st August 21:09

[Rocco1]

TVRMs said:

Try and do your research before you post nonsense Tony, and if it's a wind-up, it's in bad taste.

Perpetuating a myth that all Sags that haven't had a rebuild need one does the majority of owners no favours.

Kieth try having a day off being an arse

Edited by TVRMs on Monday 1st August 21:07

Edited by TVRMs on Monday 1st August 21:09

FYI i did my homework and purschased a Sag with a bulletproof 4.3 engine,helps me sleep at night ;-)

[anonymous-user]

Rocco1 said:

TVRMs said:

Try and do your research before you post nonsense Tony, and if it's a wind-up, it's in bad taste.

Perpetuating a myth that all Sags that haven't had a rebuild need one does the majority of owners no favours.

Kieth try having a day off being an arse

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st August 21:07

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st August 21:09

FYI i did my homework and purschased a Sag with a bulletproof 4.3 engine,helps me sleep at night ;-)

I know the car you bought Tony.

I found it a bit sad that you went down the route of suggesting that the original Sag engines were chocolate when they were anything but.

I suspect, but don't know for a fact, that the majority of 4.3s have been done cos the owners wanted more torque, or just because they could. There was very little wrong with the 4.0 engines that came out of the factory in 2005/6.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st August 21:41

[Rocco1]

TVRMs said:

I know the car you bought Tony.

I found it a bit sad that you went down the route of suggesting that the original Sag engines were chocolate when they were anything but.

I suspect, but don't know for a fact, that the majority of 4.3s have been done cos the owners wanted more torque, or just because they could. There was very little wrong with the 4.0 engines that came out of the factory in 2005/6.

Edited by TVRMs on Monday 1st August 21:41

Read what happend to my car when hollowpocket was the owner!!

[PuffsBack]

"I did my homework" - not very well then

[Silvernoble883]

Rocco1 said:

TVRMs said:

Try and do your research before you post nonsense Tony, and if it's a wind-up, it's in bad taste.

Perpetuating a myth that all Sags that haven't had a rebuild need one does the majority of owners no favours.

Kieth try having a day off being an arse

Edited by TVRMs on Monday 1st August 21:07

Edited by TVRMs on Monday 1st August 21:09

FYI i did my homework and purschased a Sag with a bulletproof 4.3 engine,helps me sleep at night ;-)

Then you will know about all the 4.3s that have been rebuilt on the quiet.

[anonymous-user]

Rocco1 said:

TVRMs said:

I know the car you bought Tony.

I found it a bit sad that you went down the route of suggesting that the original Sag engines were chocolate when they were anything but.

I suspect, but don't know for a fact, that the majority of 4.3s have been done cos the owners wanted more torque, or just because they could. There was very little wrong with the 4.0 engines that came out of the factory in 2005/6.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st August 21:41

Read what happend to my car when hollowpocket was the owner!!

I don't need to Tony, like I said, I know the car.

[Silvernoble883]

TVRMs said:

Rocco1 said:

TVRMs said:

I know the car you bought Tony.

I found it a bit sad that you went down the route of suggesting that the original Sag engines were chocolate when they were anything but.

I suspect, but don't know for a fact, that the majority of 4.3s have been done cos the owners wanted more torque, or just because they could. There was very little wrong with the 4.0 engines that came out of the factory in 2005/6.

Edited by TVRMs on Monday 1st August 21:41

Read what happend to my car when hollowpocket was the owner!!

I don't need to Tony, like I said, I know the car.

Didn't I read Hollowpockets Sag blew up on a Monza track Day?

[Rocco1]

Silvernoble883 said:

Didn't I read Hollowpockets Sag blew up on a Monza track Day?

Correct and then spent a fortune having a rebuild,this begs the question if the 2005/2006 4.0 engine were fine then why did it let go,unless this was an isolated incident

[m4tti]

Rocco1 said:

Correct and then spent a fortune having a rebuild,this begs the question if the 2005/2006 4.0 engine were fine then why did it let go,unless this was an isolated incident

They weren't fine. It was still pot luck with dicey quality control. The cam follower issue was largely sorted but other qc related issues occurred.

See the last two posts on this page, that's a 2005 car.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Silvernoble883]

Rocco1 said:

Silvernoble883 said:

Didn't I read Hollowpockets Sag blew up on a Monza track Day?

Correct and then spent a fortune having a rebuild,this begs the question if the 2005/2006 4.0 engine were fine then why did it let go,unless this was an isolated incident

I owned a Sag from new for 5 years and over 20,000 miles with no engine problems but if I'm honest if buying now I would go for the upgrade engine just because I felt the 4 litre lacked punch and not because of reliability issues as I've known of a few upgrade engines to go Pop just like some original engines do.

[SAGGG93]

All I know is my 4.5 is like nothing else.... A standard car just wouldn't cut it.

[J12KJR]

Sold mine with nearly 50,000 miles on the original engine and nothing wrong with it at all. Dom @ Power had even given up on trying to sell me a 4.3 or 4.5 conversion on the basis that "your engine is fine Kev".
Would I go for a converted now? Yes but only because whilst the car was quick enough for the road it just never felt as quick as it looked

You could buy a Porsche and have engine fires, bore scoring or bearing failures a Lambo and have engine fires or 3,000 mile clutches etc.

Buy them and enjoy them.

[Rocco1]

J12KJR said:

Sold mine with nearly 50,000 miles on the original engine and nothing wrong with it at all. Dom @ Power had even given up on trying to sell me a 4.3 or 4.5 conversion on the basis that "your engine is fine Kev".
Would I go for a converted now? Yes but only because whilst the car was quick enough for the road it just never felt as quick as it looked

You could buy a Porsche and have engine fires, bore scoring or bearing failures a Lambo and have engine fires or 3,000 mile clutches etc.

Buy them and enjoy them.

I have never had a car that has given me more pleasure to drive than a Sag,and i also own a Lambo,Porsche and a Ferrari
No issues with the air cooled,no probs with the clutch on the diablo or the scud

[J12KJR]

Rocco1 said:

I have never had a car that has given me more pleasure to drive than a Sag,and i also own a Lambo,Porsche and a Ferrari
No issues with the air cooled,no probs with the clutch on the diablo or the scud

My tongue in cheek point was that it is a good car so buy it and enjoy it, you can get bad cars in any brand if you are unlucky but in the most part you will buy something that is fine.

[m4tti]

TVRMs said:

oh dear, guess we've just been lucky with our 6 S6 cars, including the Sag that did 12/13000 faultless track miles before being sold because I got bored with it.

Edited by TVRMs on Tuesday 2nd August 07:18

Yes "luck".. Dicey quality control means sometimes you'll get lucky, sometimes you won't.

If you read that post I linked to the original valve seat dropped out second time round... Yes original. If you think the factory was full of engine building gurus your in cloud cuckoo land.

[Rocco1]

Anyway back to my original question,where have all the Sags gone?