RE: PH Buying Guide: Aston Martin DB7
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tedzwedz said:
The ultimate DB7.... XJR12 Lemans racer engine 6.4 litre...
http://www.zwakmanmotors.com/
1994 Aston Martin DB7 TWR one-off Prototype RHD
Build as personal car for Tom Walkinshaw around 1995 and fitted from day one with a Jaguar XJR12 Le Mans team car unused spare engine slightly altered to handle the enormous power at the road.
This car is amazing and will beat $or better say eat$ all competitors without any hesitation, it brakes as good as it accelerates and does have a gorgeous road handling, it does have a 6 speed gearbox and accelerates like a rocket in EVERY gear.
The fastest road legal Aston Martin build until today.
2 owners from new:
First owner : Tom Walkinshaw of TWR
Second owner : Tom Zwakman of TJR
Little use by both Tom's and so very low mileage and still in pristine condition throughout.
Available mid 2012.
Price estimation € 395.000,-
I assume it must be related to this car which I saw at the Manoir d'Automobile in France last month. 8 cylinder 6.3 litre engine, ran at Le Mans in 1995, if the caption is correct.http://www.zwakmanmotors.com/
1994 Aston Martin DB7 TWR one-off Prototype RHD
Build as personal car for Tom Walkinshaw around 1995 and fitted from day one with a Jaguar XJR12 Le Mans team car unused spare engine slightly altered to handle the enormous power at the road.
This car is amazing and will beat $or better say eat$ all competitors without any hesitation, it brakes as good as it accelerates and does have a gorgeous road handling, it does have a 6 speed gearbox and accelerates like a rocket in EVERY gear.
The fastest road legal Aston Martin build until today.
2 owners from new:
First owner : Tom Walkinshaw of TWR
Second owner : Tom Zwakman of TJR
Little use by both Tom's and so very low mileage and still in pristine condition throughout.
Available mid 2012.
Price estimation € 395.000,-
I am a bit of a DB7 V12 nut and do about 10000 per year in my four cars..
My DB7 Zagato is a fantastic car and it was available in any colour (not 3 as it says in the article.).
Took it to LeMans for last 2 years.
I also managed to get an DB7 AR1 from the USA and i think I am the only person in the world with a pair.
The AR1 was the fastest production true roadster in 2003/2004. I cannot take this car anywhere without admiring comments.
It is very fast and handles well for a car with no roof.
I also have a DB7 volante with a sports exhaust, and a DB7 manual which we use as track day car.
My opinion
Engine: Bombproof, coils need replacing but are OK for ever when replaced.
Gearbox: Auto Same as BMW Manual is Temec T56 used on many muscle cars in USA
Bodywork: They are all beautiful in my opinion:
Interior: Leather, leather, more leather, thick carpet. comfy electric seats( leather). An uncluttered interior.
Rust: Nothing a good bodyshop can't handle. You can always spend a fortune on any car at the wrong place
Fun: I still take my cars out just for pleasure on a nice evening.
Buying: Make sure its been looked after. Have it inspected. Ask on the Aston forum for advice.
Running: If your prepared to work on it yourself you can save a fortune. The cars suspension is based on XJS technology. The bonus of this is that they can be worked on by any competent mechanic. AM publish the whole technical literature on line. You even have access to the ODB fault finding manual. Members of the owners club also get 10% discount on parts.
Depreciation : Over 5 years will be less than a Honda Civic for christ sake!. If you do 3000 miles per year thats only about £300 extra in petrol over a modern high performance car. Annual tax is still only £215. So for £100 per year extra you get to ride around in an Aston Martin.
Buy one!
My DB7 Zagato is a fantastic car and it was available in any colour (not 3 as it says in the article.).
Took it to LeMans for last 2 years.
I also managed to get an DB7 AR1 from the USA and i think I am the only person in the world with a pair.
The AR1 was the fastest production true roadster in 2003/2004. I cannot take this car anywhere without admiring comments.
It is very fast and handles well for a car with no roof.
I also have a DB7 volante with a sports exhaust, and a DB7 manual which we use as track day car.
My opinion
Engine: Bombproof, coils need replacing but are OK for ever when replaced.
Gearbox: Auto Same as BMW Manual is Temec T56 used on many muscle cars in USA
Bodywork: They are all beautiful in my opinion:
Interior: Leather, leather, more leather, thick carpet. comfy electric seats( leather). An uncluttered interior.
Rust: Nothing a good bodyshop can't handle. You can always spend a fortune on any car at the wrong place
Fun: I still take my cars out just for pleasure on a nice evening.
Buying: Make sure its been looked after. Have it inspected. Ask on the Aston forum for advice.
Running: If your prepared to work on it yourself you can save a fortune. The cars suspension is based on XJS technology. The bonus of this is that they can be worked on by any competent mechanic. AM publish the whole technical literature on line. You even have access to the ODB fault finding manual. Members of the owners club also get 10% discount on parts.
Depreciation : Over 5 years will be less than a Honda Civic for christ sake!. If you do 3000 miles per year thats only about £300 extra in petrol over a modern high performance car. Annual tax is still only £215. So for £100 per year extra you get to ride around in an Aston Martin.
Buy one!
se.LordBretSinclair said:
I assume it must be related to this car which I saw at the Manoir d'Automobile in France last month. 8 cylinder 6.3 litre engine, ran at Le Mans in 1995, if the caption is correct.
Private endeavour using an Aston V8 race-engine. Failed to qualify. Little to do with TWR; his V12 was to show what the DB7 could really be like but Ford didn't want to put another Jag-dervied engine in the car and would rather Aston work on a Duratec-derived version.For those actually reading this thread as a buying guide, check out this old thread for more views on ownership: http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Very nice!
Still all things considered I'll probably spend my £500 here http://pistonheads.com/sales/3322401.htm
They had me sold at 'stereo'
Still all things considered I'll probably spend my £500 here http://pistonheads.com/sales/3322401.htm
They had me sold at 'stereo'
Edited by KM666 on Tuesday 25th October 23:58
KM666 said:
Very nice!
Still all things considered I'll probably spend my £500 here http://pistonheads.com/sales/3322401.htm
They had me sold at 'stereo'
Surely someone's mistakenly typed one or possibly even two extra noughts on the price of that heap of junk. One for the worst car I've ever driven thread!Still all things considered I'll probably spend my £500 here http://pistonheads.com/sales/3322401.htm
They had me sold at 'stereo'
Edited by KM666 on Tuesday 25th October 23:58
Quite a coincidence that the two Zagato DB7s at Stratton Motor Company should be pictured with this feature. Only a couple of weeks ago I was there and filmed them to make this movie: http://www.insignia-motor-yachting.tv/life-ashore-...
Such a shame the AR1's owner had modified it to take a makeshift roof!
Such a shame the AR1's owner had modified it to take a makeshift roof!
V8LM said:
LordBretSinclair said:
I assume it must be related to this car which I saw at the Manoir d'Automobile in France last month. 8 cylinder 6.3 litre engine, ran at Le Mans in 1995, if the caption is correct.
Private endeavour using an Aston V8 race-engine. Failed to qualify. Little to do with TWR; his V12 was to show what the DB7 could really be like but Ford didn't want to put another Jag-dervied engine in the car and would rather Aston work on a Duratec-derived version.The Manoir is a very interesting place. I particularly remembered the annual Le Mans posters all around the walls. I'm trying to recreate this effect in my office and garage.
Edited by LoudV8 on Wednesday 26th October 18:58
Well absolutely no signs of rust on my DB7 Vantage Volante - even had RIck@DMS give it a complete look over to ensure it was in a good place for the new owner, used in all weathers and now just about to head to a new owner in France, will be a little sad to see it go but can't justify having 2 Astons! Seems incredible as I dreamt of owning one and never thought I'd end up with 2!
Pete
Pete
Rob2005 you're coming across as a retarded, yet still unlikeable child.
Sod off back to whichever rock you came out from, there's a good lad. This is a good natured thread on a good natured forum.
Just your poorly informed vitriol spoiling it for others.
Sod off back to whichever rock you came out from, there's a good lad. This is a good natured thread on a good natured forum.
Just your poorly informed vitriol spoiling it for others.
Edited by yeti on Friday 28th October 15:25
GaryU said:
I am a bit of a DB7 V12 nut and do about 10000 per year in my four cars..
My DB7 Zagato is a fantastic car and it was available in any colour (not 3 as it says in the article.).
Damn right you're a DB7 nut. Must be a hell of a nice looking garage / art gallery.My DB7 Zagato is a fantastic car and it was available in any colour (not 3 as it says in the article.).
I agree that these are beautiful looking and great sounding / going cars, and currently good value! Plus they are available with a V12, RWD and Manual gearbox. The number of new cars available with that combination are very limited.
How does the DB7 v12 compares with an early DB9 manual in terms of driving, performance and reliability?
British Beef said:
How does the DB7 v12 compares with an early DB9 manual in terms of driving, performance and reliability?
The two aren't really comparable - the DB7 drives very much like a classic car but with a level of reliability and pace that is very un-classic, the DB9 is just so very much more modern. It doesnt feel like one became the other, there is no evolution, it's just a totally different car, just the engine carried over really. This is sometimes one of the reasons cited for the missingout of the 'DB8' name, though there are other reasons too. I think it might be like comparing the DB6 to the DB7, the change is that huge!Performance and driving isn't far off to be honest, the power difference is negligable as is the weight differential. A DB7 GT manual is a heck of a car but I think would be more money to run - 6-monthly services and certain flaws in the design mean you ca expect something to be fixed/replaced every service. I'd have one again though, they're terrific cars and I miss mine! On the road (rather than circuit), you'd hardly notice the difference in pace and when I got my DB9 I'm sorry to say it was lacking in character by comparison - it had a more mass-produced feel, though for most this wouldn't be a bad thing. Also the DB7 is a very nice size, the 9 is hugely wide. Ity all helps on the road and through towns or parking!
You make the DB7 sound more enticing, the more compact packaging and "classic car dynamics" definately appeal to me.
Is servicing / working on a DB7 Vatage tricky? I live North of Aberdeen, nearest AM stealer or specialist is a good 3 hours drive away, so would use a local (good) mechanic.
The DB( strikes me as tardis in reverse, regarding interior space, I suppose that is the sacrifice paid for the low slung looks and the stonking v12 motor.
Is servicing / working on a DB7 Vatage tricky? I live North of Aberdeen, nearest AM stealer or specialist is a good 3 hours drive away, so would use a local (good) mechanic.
The DB( strikes me as tardis in reverse, regarding interior space, I suppose that is the sacrifice paid for the low slung looks and the stonking v12 motor.
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