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blackice1

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329 posts

57 months

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I thought i would post this for those that dont know .

THIS MUST BE CARRIED OUT WHEN CAR IS COLD (at least once a week)

1.Turn Ignition on
2.put foot on brake pedal and turn engine on
3.Within about 10 seconds you will here an audible click from under the car .
4.The 'Click' is an indication of a clutch learn.
5.Once you have heard this sound ,turn engine and ignition off and repeat process at least three more times.

Following these instructions will ultimately result in smoother power delivery when pulling away from a standstill.

Neil1300R

4,157 posts

65 months

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Updated the FAQ

Highrisedrifter

754 posts

41 months

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I do this once every time I start the car. Do I actually need to do it three or four times each go, or will just the once be good enough?

Surely if I do it once then the car has 'learnt' and doesn't require multiple goes? Or, does it only 'partially learn' each time, hence necessitating multiple 'learns'?

millsjq

142 posts

48 months

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Still seem to be some "urban legands" on this. Some think the A/C must be off, other that the car needs to be cold, and some that it needs to be complted multiple times in a sequence. Is there a defenitive answer?

Lunablack

3,473 posts

49 months

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Can't believe a modern car should need to go through this rigmarole, just so the clutch can lastrofl

Do any other cars need to do this??

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blackice1

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329 posts

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Highrisedrifter said:
I do this once every time I start the car. Do I actually need to do it three or four times each go, or will just the once be good enough?

Surely if I do it once then the car has 'learnt' and doesn't require multiple goes? Or, does it only 'partially learn' each time, hence necessitating multiple 'learns'?
Your basically answered it yourself there.

blackice1

Original Poster:

329 posts

57 months

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millsjq said:
Still seem to be some "urban legands" on this. Some think the A/C must be off, other that the car needs to be cold, and some that it needs to be complted multiple times in a sequence. Is there a defenitive answer?
As i stated yed it needs to be cold .

I can only imagine about the A/C one is that as it cuts in when you start the car it makes a noise a bit like the click.

yeti

10,284 posts

162 months

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Just goes to show, the manual 6-speed Graziano box is KING smile

mikey k

9,505 posts

103 months

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blackice1 said:
I thought i would post this for those that dont know .

THIS MUST BE CARRIED OUT WHEN CAR IS COLD (at least once a week)

1.Turn Ignition on
2.put foot on brake pedal and turn engine on
3.Within about 10 seconds you will here an audible click from under the car .
4.The 'Click' is an indication of a clutch learn.
5.Once you have heard this sound ,turn engine and ignition off and repeat process at least three more times.

Following these instructions will ultimately result in smoother power delivery when pulling away from a standstill.
You missed a bit wink
I had a "Service Bulletin" print out from Grange
Make sure the aircon is OFF! (it masks the sound and puts high load on the electrical system which can confuse the calibration)
I found you do not need to repeat it if you do it each time you go out in the car
BTW ASM2 does a learn every time you start it

Yeti - I presume you mean the manual in the V12? The manual in the V8 is the same box just actuated by the paddles wink

(edited to clarify)


Edited by mikey k on Friday 2nd March 16:12

George H

12,554 posts

51 months

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yeti said:
Just goes to show, the manual 6-speed Graziano box is KING smile
The sportshift is the manual 6-speed Graziano box. So

yeti

10,284 posts

162 months

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Don't see me having to do any clutch learns smile

Manual, with a clutch pedal and a gearstick. It's about interaction with the car wink

moveover

189 posts

50 months

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blackice1 said:
I thought i would post this for those that dont know .

THIS MUST BE CARRIED OUT WHEN CAR IS COLD (at least once a week)

1.Turn Ignition on
2.put foot on brake pedal and turn engine on
3.Within about 10 seconds you will here an audible click from under the car .
4.The 'Click' is an indication of a clutch learn.
5.Once you have heard this sound ,turn engine and ignition off and repeat process at least three more times.

Following these instructions will ultimately result in smoother power delivery when pulling away from a standstill.
It's a good job Astons don't have automatic service intervals that are determined by factors such as the number of cold starts, if I need to do three of them every time I use the car!

moveover

189 posts

50 months

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yeti said:
Don't see me having to do any clutch learns smile

Manual, with a clutch pedal and a gearstick. It's about interaction with the car wink
Having owned a manual before the SS, one thing I definitely DONT miss about it is the frantic yanking needed to get it from 1st to 2nd when cold. And the throttle lag, which means rev matching on downshifts was a real pain - the SS does this brilliantly.

X7LDA

802 posts

91 months

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Guys,

Just wanted to get clarity on the clutch learn... Do I need to drop the car into neutral (as it starts in 1st gear on the SS) or do I simlpy let the car run for ten seconds before doing anything?

Also, after the click - do I need to turn the car off and on again? Seems a bit OTT particularly when car is already very loud.

I'm sure i'm covering old ground here however i've found three posts on the SS clutch learn now and every single one says something different!

Cheers
Lewis

mikey k

9,505 posts

103 months

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ASM1 - start the car with ALL ancillaries off (aircon etc) and foot on brake, listen for click from clutch under car after ~15 seconds. If it's not been done for a while do it 4-5 times. I got in to the habit of doing it once the first time I drove it each day.

ASM2 - start the car foot on the brake and wait for the N light to stop flashing wink

X7LDA

802 posts

91 months

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[quote=mikey k]ASM1 - start the car with ALL ancillaries off (aircon etc) and foot on brake, listen for click from clutch under car after ~15 seconds. If it's not been done for a while do it 4-5 times. I got in to the habit of doing it once the first time I drove it each day.
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Thanks. ASM1 for me. Do you drop it into neutral first or leave in 1?


v8woollie

4,297 posts

32 months

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moveover said:
Having owned a manual before the SS, one thing I definitely DONT miss about it is the frantic yanking needed to get it from 1st to 2nd when cold. And the throttle lag, which means rev matching on downshifts was a real pain - the SS does this brilliantly.
The yanking is definitely making my wrist stronger. I hope I spelt that correctly smile

dutchiev8v

19 posts

23 months

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mikey k said:
ASM2 - start the car foot on the brake and wait for the N light to stop flashing wink
I have got a Vantage ASM2 (my2010), but my neutral doesn't flash. When I start the car with foot on the brake 1st gear is selected on the display and Neutral will come on after a few seconds. I also hear a click after a few seconds which I assume is the clutch re-learn?

I started reading about the clutch re-learn on this forum but neither the owners manual nor the dealer discussed it which I find slightly odd.

Am I correct in assuming that the new 7 gear ASM doesn't need to do the clutch re-learn, but the older ASM2 gear boxes do?

mikey k

9,505 posts

103 months

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dutchiev8v said:
mikey k said:
ASM2 - start the car foot on the brake and wait for the N light to stop flashing wink
I have got a Vantage ASM2 (my2010), but my neutral doesn't flash. When I start the car with foot on the brake 1st gear is selected on the display and Neutral will come on after a few seconds. I also hear a click after a few seconds which I assume is the clutch re-learn?

I started reading about the clutch re-learn on this forum but neither the owners manual nor the dealer discussed it which I find slightly odd.

Am I correct in assuming that the new 7 gear ASM doesn't need to do the clutch re-learn, but the older ASM2 gear boxes do?
You have ASM1 (6 speed)
ASM2 is the new 7 speed box in the S and option on MY13 std car

dutchiev8v

19 posts

23 months

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mikey k said:
You have ASM1 (6 speed)
ASM2 is the new 7 speed box in the S and option on MY13 std car
Thanks for your quick reply, clarifies it - clearly still learning a lot! smile
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