Bought a V12V and not a fan...

Bought a V12V and not a fan...

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Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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BravoV8V said:
controlz said:
FYI, the Corsa's have 3mm of tread on them.
Buy some new Corsas.

They might be above the legal limit (1.6mm) but they are very close to their effective limit.
Sweet Jesus, YES !!!

Don't take your car anywhere near a Dealer or they'll change them for you at that depth smile

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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What you need is the Michelin pilot super sports they are meant to be far better as some on here have already changed.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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roughrider said:
Aston Martin driver aids are quite unintrusive
Must be different on the V8?
Both mine munched rear brakes due to the traction control nannying me frown

controlz

192 posts

118 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Cockernee said:
Driving 5 miles in town or at a constant speed on straight ish roads will not put heat into a tyre (well not the kind of heat you need). You need to be slightly aggressive in cornering and acceleration to build that temperature in a Corsa to get the grip levels you are ultimately looking for.

However, I would suggest that you go for the option tyre (Pirelli PZero) when you replace the tyres and that issue of warming up the tyres goes away. I loved the Corsa, but they are a compound that does not really belong on a road car that is not driven hard.
Will try warming up much more and see how I get along. FYI, here are my tread depths. These were measured and set to my by my local AM dealer and I think the 5.07 on the OSR is a typo:

NSR 2.15/ 3.50/ 4.06
OSR 5.07/ 3.23/ 3.88
OSF 4.88/4.88/4.52
NSF 4.81/4.51/4.88

Tyres are only 2 years old so I don't think it's an ageing issue.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Huge thumbs up for the Pilot Super Sports - best thing I've done to my Rapide. Its even more planted with these. Absolutely love them and the improved ride/surefootedness. Also gives a greater purpose and usability to the harder damper switch.

I was in a friends V12V on a cold day and he was on Corsas - wheelspinning in 3d... Not for me.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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cayman-black said:
What you need is the Michelin pilot super sports they are meant to be far better as some on here have already changed.
Not sure they have gone on a V12V yet though?

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Had to put 99Y load rating on the front for the Rapide - it only requires 95Y, but you cant get those. Absolutely no issue.

Mako V12V

3,135 posts

214 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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So is there anyone on here with a V12V with Michellin PSS's fitted?
Feedback please?

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Mako, i am quite sure Waremark has them.

DAMIT

341 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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controlz said:
Will try warming up much more and see how I get along. FYI, here are my tread depths. These were measured and set to my by my local AM dealer and I think the 5.07 on the OSR is a typo:

NSR 2.15/ 3.50/ 4.06
OSR 5.07/ 3.23/ 3.88
OSF 4.88/4.88/4.52
NSF 4.81/4.51/4.88

Tyres are only 2 years old so I don't think it's an ageing issue.
Have you had the Geo done recently? Your wear rate across the rears looks odd.

controlz

192 posts

118 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Does anybody fancy doing a direct swap of their regular PZeros for my Coras? Seems I obviouasly don't get on with them..

DAMIT: I think that 5.07 is a typo from the AM dealership

ripley500

387 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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I had a similar experience with Corsas on my V12V - even in summer the traction control light comes on very easily. I changed all four tyres last year and went for a new set of Corsas - I did find the new set were better - it's still easy to light up the traction control lights but there is noticeably more grip from the newer rubber. I think my old set had aged.

DAVIDOXE

494 posts

114 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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I am sure the Corsas are a great tyre for a track day but for regular brisk driving in the Uk climate they are ste!!!
Will be changing mine as soon as they are worn out (be about 200 miles from the relentless wheel spin).


mblade123

533 posts

192 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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I had corsas on mine and had the same problems. Always spinning, lack of traction in the wet and so on.
At the first opertunaty I changed the rears to the Pzeros.
Last Sunday I was half way up kirkstone pass in the snow and they held up no problem.


Edited by mblade123 on Wednesday 15th April 22:25

controlz

192 posts

118 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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mblade123 said:
I had corsas on mine and had the same problems. Always spinning, lack of traction in the wet and so on.
At the first opertunaty I changed the rears to the Pzeros.
Last Sunday I was half way up kirkstone pass in the snow and they held up no problem.


Edited by mblade123 on Wednesday 15th April 22:25
Is it safe to replace only the rears with PZeros and keep the corsas on the front?

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Seriously?

mblade123

533 posts

192 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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The rears do the driving so it's perfectly safe. As long as it's done in pairs.
Yes, unfortunately I am serious. It was a very wet day but as we got higher it started as sleet and then snow.
Before we knew it there was snow all around.
Had to stop eventually and back up and turn around.
The tyres worked flawlessly incidentally.
Just goes to show what can be achieved in an Aston when needs must

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Extreme conditions there, but one of the best things about mine is the throttle balance as its virtually 50/50 on weight and grip. Predictable planted and superb. Horses/courses!

mkzhang

14 posts

108 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Actually not best to have two different sets of tires on front and back.

When the tires approach their limits, the different characteristics of each tire will make your can handle very unpredictable. You may say you never drive like that on the streets, but it applies even coming off the highway around a jug handle, emergency avoidance, or just going a tad bit quick in cold temp when one set of tire offer slightly better grip etc.

Jonsv8

7,219 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Forget all this discussion about warming them up or buying a new pair. Even if you found that 10 mins of weaving down roads trying to get heat into them dud the trick I can't see you wanting to do that every time. And you've no confidence in them.

I'd go to a dealer and get a test drive in a car with newer tyres on them and see how you get on: if ok it's something about your tyres. If not or if you want something different anyway I'd get some regular summer tyres like PSS or Goodyear asym2 etc. you're not a million miles off needing a change of tyre anyway so it's no great loss to see the back of them

I'd not swap one axel though, rears may give the drive, but the front do a lot of the braking and steering.