Bought a V12V and not a fan...

[clorenzen]

Winter tyres will solve all your problems (with the car). I simply don't get dealers who let new owners out without a serious warning about the P Zero Corsas when it is cold outside.

[CatalystV12V]

I'm also a new owner, but was made very aware by my dealer and by reading posts here that the v12 can be a handful whem temperatures are low. The dealer even made me sign to confirm that I had received my safety briefing before letting me drive off!!
Admittedly I'm yet to put in any serious miles and have only used the sport button in very small doses.
My advice would be to take it easy and wait for things to warm up as other have said the PDC courses are excellent. I did one in my V8 and I'm planning another v12 day too.
Stick with it, it will be worth it.

[Diamond blue]

Hi Guys,
Can I ask what tyres the V12V runs on? I love the car and would definitely be looking at one in the future but this seems a bit of an issue.
By comparison the ridiculous Michelin Sport Cups on my GT3 never struggled for grip, cold or otherwise. Neither the Pirelli Corsas on the Scuderia.

[The Pits]

the 'issue' is 425ft/lbs of torque. the Scuderia has 350ft/lbs

that and drivers not using their common sense

big torque = big grin



time to man up a bit out there people!

[bananarob]

The Pits said:

The emphasis of the PDC is on showing you what the car is capable of, not so much teaching you how to drive.

Ditto

[Mako V12V]

The Pits said:

the 'issue' is 425ft/lbs of torque. the Scuderia has 350ft/lbs

that and drivers not using their common sense

big torque = big grin



time to man up a bit out there people!

Spot on!

[CarbonV12V]

I picked mine up last week and have used it for 3 days already and put the sport button on as soon as the road conditions allowed - I preferred the throttle response. Coming from a "safe" 997TT it is much more fun and keeps your attention on right foot modulation. I find the tyres fine if you get some heat into them and drive to the conditions.

It's not a car that you can drive with a right foot on/off pedal which is part of enjoyment of the overall package. I do however also like just driving in the normal flow of traffic and watching the reaction of other drivers. Much more favourable than Porsche ownership .

If you want a car that you can just get in and drive at full throttle but with enought driver aids to keep you on the black stuff then suggest you try a 997TT or GTR.

[Rex Racer]

The Pits said:

the 'issue' is 425ft/lbs of torque. the Scuderia has 350ft/lbs

that and drivers not using their common sense

big torque = big grin



time to man up a bit out there people!

Have to agree with that one too. When the back end slips a bit, it reminds me that I'm driving a powerful sports car. I'm not driving for a time and I'm not racing. Also, a little slipping here and there is easy to manage.

[mikey k]

bananarob said:

The Pits said:

The emphasis of the PDC is on showing you what the car is capable of, not so much teaching you how to drive.

Ditto

Never done a PDC but if that is the case I'll not bother.
I have done a couple of these and I would highly recommend Andy to any one wishing to learn more and explore their abilities in their own car in a safe environment.

http://www.carlimits.com/script/viewEvents.php?typ...

[Vantagefan]

spacecowboy7 said:

Thanks for the advise.

I took the sport mode off and made a HUGE difference. Much more controllable.

I appreciate all the advise re driving course. I recognise I could do with that. I'm not driving it like a bat out of hell though , I have had driving lessons and track day experience before and no problems with other cars so although I think my driving is part of the issue I am hoping it is something to do with the car as well.

Will check the tyres and book the Aston driving course before making any final judgements on the car. I did enjoy it much more thr last 50 miles without the Sport button.

The Performance Driving Course isn't just about countering your lack of experience, it's bloody good fun and will show you the potential in your car so you can sit smugly knowing what it's capable of without needing to test it on public roads. The guys in the PDC team (especially a certain Mr Dickinson) are also very good at ironing out any bad driving habits, or little traits that need to be forgotten from driving a 'normal' car to driving something like the V12 Vantage.

I can't recommend it enough.

[The Pits]

mikey k said:

Never done a PDC but if that is the case I'll not bother.
I have done a couple of these and I would highly recommend Andy to any one wishing to learn more and explore their abilities in their own car in a safe environment.

http://www.carlimits.com/script/viewEvents.php?typ...

There's no-one out there who better understands and can demonstrate the potential of the cars than Aston Martins instructors. The major benefit of the course is that it's in an identical car but not your actual car. So you can fearlessly stamp on the brakes and shred the tyres without a care in the world. I took my Vantage for a lap of brands hatch last year and drove like I had miss Daisy riding shotgun. I was too worried about scuffing my carbon spoiler on the compression after paddock hill and just couldn't forget the cost of the tyres. I should add that I had a race spec caterham seven sitting in the pit lane waiting for me so it was only ever an 'honorary' few laps but the point is, I'd have had a lot more fun in someone else's V12 Vantage in that situation.

[MrOrange]

mikey k said:

Never done a PDC but if that is the case I'll not bother.
I have done a couple of these and I would highly recommend Andy to any one wishing to learn more and explore their abilities in their own car in a safe environment.

http://www.carlimits.com/script/viewEvents.php?typ...

Seconded it.

[V8LM]

By all accounts the V12V is the best handling road car Aston have ever made. Take the advice of the owners above - change the tyres, don't push it until you know you can (read leave the Sport button alone), and stick with it.

My observation though is what a p1ss poor performance of a dealer that won't let you test drive a car but is prepared to take your 93k pounds and send you on your way.

[Lunablack]

V8LM said:

By all accounts the V12V is the best handling road car Aston have ever made.

V8S owners may have somthing to say about that claim

[johng39]

Lunablack said:

V8S owners may have somthing to say about that claim

They might, but who is listening

[DB9VolanteDriver]

Lunablack said:

V8LM said:

By all accounts the V12V is the best handling road car Aston have ever made.

V8S owners may have somthing to say about that claim

DBS owners may have something to say about that claim

[V8LM]

Edit:

V8LM said:

By all many some accounts the V12V is the best handling road car Aston have ever made. Take the advice of the owners above - change the tyres, don't push it until you know you can (read leave the Sport button alone), and stick with it.

My observation though is what a p1ss poor performance of a dealer that won't let you test drive a car but is prepared to take your 93k pounds and send you on your way.

[AstonZagato]

DB9VolanteDriver said:

DBS owners may have something to say about that claim

I found them quite different. The V12V is a lot more "pointy". I chose the DBS because it was, I thought, a better compromise for real world driving. If I was to do nothing but track work, I'd have gone for the V12V. However, the reality is that most of my driving is bimbling along hemmed in by barely roadworthy muppets.

[cayman-black]

V8LM said:

By all accounts the V12V is the best handling road car Aston have ever made. Take the advice of the owners above - change the tyres, don't push it until you know you can (read leave the Sport button alone), and stick with it.

My observation though is what a p1ss poor performance of a dealer that won't let you test drive a car but is prepared to take your 93k pounds and send you on your way.

Quoteing the original.
Agree about the dealer as well.

[spacecowboy7]

I am going on the PDC course next week. The car has been far more agreeable in the warmer weather today, really enjoyed it. Not had any troubles with wheel spin or anything. Will just be super careful in the wet.

Thanks for all your advise- I will let you know what I decide re the car in the future. For now I am going to try and get the most out of it and see where that takes me.

Andy