Bought a V12V and not a fan...

[lady topaz]

Fantastic news. Enjoy the PDC and please report back with your thoughts.

I got my V12V back from WS today after them sorting a wiper problem. I can't tell you what lit up more, my face or the tyres. These are such special cars.

Di

[The Pits]

Smart move. Hope you enjoy the course. I have a feeling you will...

[johng39]

spacecowboy7 said:

I am going on the PDC course next week. The car has been far more agreeable in the warmer weather today, really enjoyed it. Not had any troubles with wheel spin or anything. Will just be super careful in the wet.

Thanks for all your advise- I will let you know what I decide re the car in the future. For now I am going to try and get the most out of it and see where that takes me.

Andy

Good move, I am pleased that in the warmer weather it has behaved a bit better for you

[BingoBob]

The best tyres I have experienced on other cars are Michelin PS2 (now replaced by the PSS). I'm not over enamoured with the OE Bridgstones which I don't find terribly grippy on my V8V. Next time I will put some PSS on.

If you are willing to stray from the AM spec'd tyres, these would be my recommendation.

[Jockman]

mikey k said:

Never done a PDC but if that is the case I'll not bother.
I have done a couple of these and I would highly recommend Andy to any one wishing to learn more and explore their abilities in their own car in a safe environment.

http://www.carlimits.com/script/viewEvents.php?typ...

You do not need to do a PDC course Mr K. Neither does Quinny or t1blk, having successfully negotiated hedge-finder TVR stock previously. Knowing the car's limit in the TVR world seems to be synonymous with recognising the species of tree that is up against your windscreen.

I am too tight to pay for the PDC, and Georgeous is only 14 years old and so will not qualify

[yeti]

Diamond blue said:

By comparison the ridiculous Michelin Sport Cups on my GT3 never struggled for grip, cold or otherwise. Neither the Pirelli Corsas on the Scuderia.

And where are the engines in these cars, pray tell..? Having a huge lump of metal sat on them helps grip enormously

Not much in the V12V except the gearbox back there!

[George H]

Jockman said:

I am too tight to pay for the PDC, and Georgeous is only 14 years old and so will not qualify

You sure it's not because of an age limit the other way round that you aren't allowed?

Also, what the hell are you doing up pre-7am on a Saturday!

[Jockman]

George H said:

....Also, what the hell are you doing up pre-7am on a Saturday!

Grandson (little) Philip was wide awake

[George H]

Jockman said:

Grandson (little) Philip was wide awake

I thought you were little Philip

[Jockman]

George H said:

I thought you were little Philip

Git...hope that passport cost you loads

[mikey k]

George H said:

I thought you were little Philip

[t1blk]

George H said:

I thought you were little Philip

+1

[Jockman]

You 3 are now officially Personae non grata

Thank Dieu Quinny can't get to this thread !!

[t1blk]

Jockman said:

You 3 are now officially Personae non grata

Thank Dieu Quinny can't get to this thread !!

Quinny may not reply but I'm sure he's still reading it with a broad grin

[AWV12]

OP, enjoy your V12V and the PDC, it is great fun, and gives you much beter trust in the beauty you bought!

AstonZagato said:

I found them quite different. The V12V is a lot more "pointy". I chose the DBS because it was, I thought, a better compromise for real world driving. If I was to do nothing but track work, I'd have gone for the V12V. However, the reality is that most of my driving is bimbling along hemmed in by barely roadworthy muppets.

+1

Coming from a V8V, I test drove the V12V, and I did not feel relaxed driving it either. It was +16 degrees Celcsius, completely dry, and there was even wheel spin in 3rd gear on the highway even with sport-button OFF. With sport-button ON it was really crazy to drive it fast on public roads with other cars around you.

Since it was an AM event (Eiffel, Germany), I was able to test drove a DBS right after it (so similar conditions, roads, etc), and I was completely surprised what a huge difference in driving experience you get in the DBS. The DBS gave me much more "trust" when going fast and that was the reason for me to buy a DBS.

Two cars with the same engine, transmission, etc, but a totally different setup and driving experience, mostly because of different tyres, wheelbase(!) and suspension (DBS has ADC!).

[Zod]

Funny: one of my favourite things about the V12V is the way the short wheelbase makes it steerable on the throttle.

[AMFan]

V8LM said:

By all accounts the V12V is the best handling road car Aston have ever made. Take the advice of the owners above - change the tyres, don't push it until you know you can (read leave the Sport button alone), and stick with it.

My observation though is what a p1ss poor performance of a dealer that won't let you test drive a car but is prepared to take your 93k pounds and send you on your way.

I think you may find that it is a restriction placed upon the dealer by their insurers rather than a decision made by the dealer.

Andy mentioned that he was driven in the car twice by the dealer and may have even sent a close family member in to drive the car knowing that the dealer was not allowed (rather than refused) to drive the car first.

Sounds to me that they may have done all they can given the restrictions placed on them to ensure that their customer was making an informed choice.

Dangerous things assumptions!

[ScottBlack]

I took a mini version of the Aston program here in the USA when the local dealer and AMNA brought the factory chaps here to Texas. It was a fantastic experience and I learned not only better car control, but also to be more comfortable/confident in my Aston. It's well worth it!

[TDIPLC]

Unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of meeting a V12V yet, but if it conforms to the initial design criteria of the V8V, DB9 and Vanquish, the traction and dynamic performance can easily be substantially cheered up with minimal fuss and cost.

OP, If you're interested I'll do some development to establish whether it's possible to yield the same outcomes on your V12V as we've established on the other Aston Martins. This is a free of charge offer in return for your feedback.

Please let me know if you're interested.

All the best

[johng39]

TDIPLC said:

Unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of meeting a V12V yet, but if it conforms to the initial design criteria of the V8V, DB9 and Vanquish, the traction and dynamic performance can easily be substantially cheered up with minimal fuss and cost.

OP, If you're interested I'll do some development to establish whether it's possible to yield the same outcomes on your V12V as we've established on the other Aston Martins. This is a free of charge offer in return for your feedback.

Please let me know if you're interested.

All the best

Mark, not that I am cutting in on the offer, but I have a V12V and in Essex about 12 miles from you. I would be happy to bring it down for some alignment. I would be happy to provide feedback from the factory set-up and any changes you make.