AMOC Membership
Discussion
>>I just want to add I respect Tim Cottingham and the things he does on behalf of the AM Heritage Trust, and my reference to his video was not meant as a slight toward him.<<
No offence taken Wayne - music on the video was used as it was 'royalty free'
But as you have mentioned the Trust I would like to add the following. AMOC members are also members of the Trust - BUT if you don't fancy the AMOC but want to support the Trust, you can just join the AMHT only............not a lot of people know that.
And for me, Heritage is as much about what happened yesterday as 100 years ago. This is why the AM register is constantly updated with all the new cars. One-77.....V12 Zag.......Project Comet Lagonda.....all already in the register. The reason for this is simple in that it's easier to collect the info when 'factory fresh' rather than years down the line.
No offence taken Wayne - music on the video was used as it was 'royalty free'
But as you have mentioned the Trust I would like to add the following. AMOC members are also members of the Trust - BUT if you don't fancy the AMOC but want to support the Trust, you can just join the AMHT only............not a lot of people know that.
And for me, Heritage is as much about what happened yesterday as 100 years ago. This is why the AM register is constantly updated with all the new cars. One-77.....V12 Zag.......Project Comet Lagonda.....all already in the register. The reason for this is simple in that it's easier to collect the info when 'factory fresh' rather than years down the line.
Zig Zagato said:
WayneB said:
I honestly think some of you on here and on the AMOC Forum have no idea how snooty you come across to people like me who live in other parts of the world.
My Butler browses the AMOC Forum for me and tells me if there's anything interesting on there ...
WayneB said:
... The video shot by Tim Cottingham of the AMOC event at a stately home showing immaculate cars carefully arranged on manicured lawns with chamber music playing is definitely what repels me, paying my money to join the AMOC to sponsor such an event for others is out of the question.
... Until the AMOC gets with the times and makes some much needed adjustments they wont be getting my financial support.
That's just one of so many things the AMOC does. To define it by that alone is a bit absurd and completely inaccurate -- it completely ignores everything else. I can't think of a club anywhere that does ONLY what I want it to do with my membership money.... Until the AMOC gets with the times and makes some much needed adjustments they wont be getting my financial support.
Edited to add: BTW, since you're in Canada... I'm in the States, so my overwhelmingly positive experience with the AMOC is based on US events. I've met a fair number of Canadian AMOC members at those events. We've done driving events (road tours and track days), concours, lunches, dinners, etc. -- all sorts of good stuff. Pompous is NOT the word I'd use to describe the Canadian members.
Edited by Speedraser on Wednesday 29th October 03:19
WayneB said:
The video shot by Tim Cottingham of the AMOC event at a stately home showing immaculate cars carefully arranged on manicured lawns with chamber music playing is definitely what repels me, paying my money to join the AMOC to sponsor such an event for others is out of the question.
So you dont belong to any clubs if that is your remit.....theres always going to be things that you do or do not like........whether its a club, job, marriage or life in general.vankypanky said:
I know, i find it real hard at times coping with being so superior.
it was the two O levels that started it. proper back of the net stuff that.
tis true...what a curse. Although it was attaing the lofty heights of two 'B's in english language and european studies that made me into the business guru I have become today I fear.....it was the two O levels that started it. proper back of the net stuff that.
Aston Registrar said:
>>I just want to add I respect Tim Cottingham and the things he does on behalf of the AM Heritage Trust, and my reference to his video was not meant as a slight toward him.<<
No offence taken Wayne - music on the video was used as it was 'royalty free'
But as you have mentioned the Trust I would like to add the following. AMOC members are also members of the Trust - BUT if you don't fancy the AMOC but want to support the Trust, you can just join the AMHT only............not a lot of people know that.
And for me, Heritage is as much about what happened yesterday as 100 years ago. This is why the AM register is constantly updated with all the new cars. One-77.....V12 Zag.......Project Comet Lagonda.....all already in the register. The reason for this is simple in that it's easier to collect the info when 'factory fresh' rather than years down the line.
Thanks Tim, I will do just that.No offence taken Wayne - music on the video was used as it was 'royalty free'
But as you have mentioned the Trust I would like to add the following. AMOC members are also members of the Trust - BUT if you don't fancy the AMOC but want to support the Trust, you can just join the AMHT only............not a lot of people know that.
And for me, Heritage is as much about what happened yesterday as 100 years ago. This is why the AM register is constantly updated with all the new cars. One-77.....V12 Zag.......Project Comet Lagonda.....all already in the register. The reason for this is simple in that it's easier to collect the info when 'factory fresh' rather than years down the line.
Zig Zagato said:
My Butler browses the AMOC Forum for me and tells me if there's anything interesting on there ...
LOL :-)I've tried a year membership, but not sure yet if it's for me. Its clearly geared to those with older more classic Astons rather than those who like discussing the merits of 200 cell cats and ECU re-maps. I was also quite surprised that they most weren't even bringing their cars to meetings (although I did curse driving my freshly waxed beast home in a thunderstorm)! Still it looks a very well run club compared to any others I've been a member of and with loads of activities planned so will definitely be hooking up again.
lady topaz said:
I have very mixed views re my short lived AMOC membership. I was given a years subscription when I had my 1st V8V roadster. I had hoped it would be like the TVRCC.
I was with TVR for 5 years during which I actively promoted the local club, touting members, exhibiting at the Bromley Pageant, going to Cornwall with the local guys as well as joining in with the Cotswolds members.
My car featured on the cover of 'SPRINT' (one of the best mags around imho). It also featured on a two page spread. I was asked to do a regular column as a lady TVR owner, and Derek Smith, the editor at the time asked me to interview Penny Mallory for an article. Total involvement and a great time with great people.
Arriving at my 1st AMOC meet for Area 7, my car at that time was the only Gaydon car in the car park and the air of indifference was palpable. Not from Winston, the RO who was very inviting, but the rest left me feeling I was trying to break into an exclusive club.
It just wasn't comfortable, which led me to try and get local Astoneers to meet from PH at a fairly local venue.
We haven't had many meets but when we do we get 20 plus cars and everyone is very friendly. No attitude at all. Same as on here really.
If AMOC did start to embrace the new generation, I would happily embrace it. Like Tony Hall and Lewis (yeti) I too am going to support them at this years Bromley Pageant, it would be good if AMOC could begin to accept us as the future of the marque. Different era's but no less passionate about the cars.
Di
I see that the TVR section on PH has 395,000 hits on just the Chimaera with the Cerbera at 303,000. The whole of the Aston section has just 245,000 hits. Surely in view of this and in view of Di's experience something could be learned from examination of the TVR club which seems to be healthier both here and at the club.I was with TVR for 5 years during which I actively promoted the local club, touting members, exhibiting at the Bromley Pageant, going to Cornwall with the local guys as well as joining in with the Cotswolds members.
My car featured on the cover of 'SPRINT' (one of the best mags around imho). It also featured on a two page spread. I was asked to do a regular column as a lady TVR owner, and Derek Smith, the editor at the time asked me to interview Penny Mallory for an article. Total involvement and a great time with great people.
Arriving at my 1st AMOC meet for Area 7, my car at that time was the only Gaydon car in the car park and the air of indifference was palpable. Not from Winston, the RO who was very inviting, but the rest left me feeling I was trying to break into an exclusive club.
It just wasn't comfortable, which led me to try and get local Astoneers to meet from PH at a fairly local venue.
We haven't had many meets but when we do we get 20 plus cars and everyone is very friendly. No attitude at all. Same as on here really.
If AMOC did start to embrace the new generation, I would happily embrace it. Like Tony Hall and Lewis (yeti) I too am going to support them at this years Bromley Pageant, it would be good if AMOC could begin to accept us as the future of the marque. Different era's but no less passionate about the cars.
Di
that is because a TVR is bough by an utter enthusiast. almost every TVR owner is in the club or on the forum. thats what the experience of ownership is about. sharing stories of how you broke down that week.
new Astons though are often bought by people that like the car or often what it stands for but wouldnt know what a forum or club was and that shows in the numbers who join the owners club or rather dont.
the other 50% of aston owners have classic cars and this isnt the place for them really. nothing here to see.
new Astons though are often bought by people that like the car or often what it stands for but wouldnt know what a forum or club was and that shows in the numbers who join the owners club or rather dont.
the other 50% of aston owners have classic cars and this isnt the place for them really. nothing here to see.
It might also have something do to with this forum starting out life (if I'm not mistaken!) as a TVR forum in the late 90s......
It only became associated with a Haymarket a few years ago when they bought it.
I also seem to remember this section being much more active up until 2010ish with it being the 'goto place' for any advice on Gaydon cars, a lot like the Bloxham section of AMOC forum is for DB7, but a lot of the old regulars disappeared around that time.
It only became associated with a Haymarket a few years ago when they bought it.
I also seem to remember this section being much more active up until 2010ish with it being the 'goto place' for any advice on Gaydon cars, a lot like the Bloxham section of AMOC forum is for DB7, but a lot of the old regulars disappeared around that time.
StephenP said:
It might also have something do to with this forum starting out life (if I'm not mistaken!) as a TVR forum in the late 90s...
You are not mistaken, Dave built Pistonheads when forums were a new idea as an alternative to a clunky Yahoo.chat email messaging system that the TVRCC used previously. Pistonheads then attracted non-TVR owning members and there was the falling out between Pistonheads and the TVRCC who then went and built their own chat forum. Politics and egos exist in every club it seems 
I suppose the fact that Land Rover and Jaguar and Mercedes have a low amount of hits must be another clue.( less than 50,000 each)
Land Rover particularly you would have thought would have been up there with the TVR enthusiasts. The amount of breakdowns, would be similar! But also the bond between owners.
Perhaps all this is catered for in all the dedicated magazines to the marques. There must be at least three magazines for each one.
Perhaps this is a clue, does for instance the only dedicated Aston magazine "Vantage" actually make you want to join the AM OC?
It is quite a glossy magazine full of expensive cars and watches and it would seem a bit daunting to someone who was toying with the idea of owning an entry level Aston.
I have just glanced through issue 7 Autumn 2014 and there are nearly twenty glorious pages dedicated to the DB7. The editorial, the report on the 20th anniversary and another fifteen pages on various DB7s.
What a golden opportunity to invite readers to join the AMOC and list the benefits, but alas I see no advertisement for it there.
I am sure that there are many stories in the TVR and Land Rover Magazines about " how I restored my car on a shoestring budget" and there have been similar threads on the AMOC forum, but perhaps this message is not being heard by many potential owners who will be more likely to bond sharing their problems than the elite with their perfect expensively restored and maintained cars which they are not interested in understanding beyond the driving.
Sorry to be rambling a bit here but just trying to help Tim with his problem.
Land Rover particularly you would have thought would have been up there with the TVR enthusiasts. The amount of breakdowns, would be similar! But also the bond between owners.
Perhaps all this is catered for in all the dedicated magazines to the marques. There must be at least three magazines for each one.
Perhaps this is a clue, does for instance the only dedicated Aston magazine "Vantage" actually make you want to join the AM OC?
It is quite a glossy magazine full of expensive cars and watches and it would seem a bit daunting to someone who was toying with the idea of owning an entry level Aston.
I have just glanced through issue 7 Autumn 2014 and there are nearly twenty glorious pages dedicated to the DB7. The editorial, the report on the 20th anniversary and another fifteen pages on various DB7s.
What a golden opportunity to invite readers to join the AMOC and list the benefits, but alas I see no advertisement for it there.
I am sure that there are many stories in the TVR and Land Rover Magazines about " how I restored my car on a shoestring budget" and there have been similar threads on the AMOC forum, but perhaps this message is not being heard by many potential owners who will be more likely to bond sharing their problems than the elite with their perfect expensively restored and maintained cars which they are not interested in understanding beyond the driving.
Sorry to be rambling a bit here but just trying to help Tim with his problem.
I have had Four TVR's (still have one), and never had a breakdown in one of them. Just brought a 2009 Vantage and it been back to the dealers twice in three weeks and still not wright.
The TVR club is a great club to be a member of and a very reasonable price.
Steve
The TVR club is a great club to be a member of and a very reasonable price.
Steve
Vanin said:
I suppose the fact that Land Rover and Jaguar and Mercedes have a low amount of hits must be another clue.( less than 50,000 each)
Land Rover particularly you would have thought would have been up there with the TVR enthusiasts. The amount of breakdowns, would be similar! But also the bond between owners.
Perhaps all this is catered for in all the dedicated magazines to the marques. There must be at least three magazines for each one.
Perhaps this is a clue, does for instance the only dedicated Aston magazine "Vantage" actually make you want to join the AM OC?
It is quite a glossy magazine full of expensive cars and watches and it would seem a bit daunting to someone who was toying with the idea of owning an entry level Aston.
I have just glanced through issue 7 Autumn 2014 and there are nearly twenty glorious pages dedicated to the DB7. The editorial, the report on the 20th anniversary and another fifteen pages on various DB7s.
What a golden opportunity to invite readers to join the AMOC and list the benefits, but alas I see no advertisement for it there.
I am sure that there are many stories in the TVR and Land Rover Magazines about " how I restored my car on a shoestring budget" and there have been similar threads on the AMOC forum, but perhaps this message is not being heard by many potential owners who will be more likely to bond sharing their problems than the elite with their perfect expensively restored and maintained cars which they are not interested in understanding beyond the driving.
Sorry to be rambling a bit here but just trying to help Tim with his problem.
Land Rover particularly you would have thought would have been up there with the TVR enthusiasts. The amount of breakdowns, would be similar! But also the bond between owners.
Perhaps all this is catered for in all the dedicated magazines to the marques. There must be at least three magazines for each one.
Perhaps this is a clue, does for instance the only dedicated Aston magazine "Vantage" actually make you want to join the AM OC?
It is quite a glossy magazine full of expensive cars and watches and it would seem a bit daunting to someone who was toying with the idea of owning an entry level Aston.
I have just glanced through issue 7 Autumn 2014 and there are nearly twenty glorious pages dedicated to the DB7. The editorial, the report on the 20th anniversary and another fifteen pages on various DB7s.
What a golden opportunity to invite readers to join the AMOC and list the benefits, but alas I see no advertisement for it there.
I am sure that there are many stories in the TVR and Land Rover Magazines about " how I restored my car on a shoestring budget" and there have been similar threads on the AMOC forum, but perhaps this message is not being heard by many potential owners who will be more likely to bond sharing their problems than the elite with their perfect expensively restored and maintained cars which they are not interested in understanding beyond the driving.
Sorry to be rambling a bit here but just trying to help Tim with his problem.
RichB said:
sleep:
Apologies to all owners of reliable TVRs and Landies! My experience is from my student days in the 70s sharing a cottage with the owners of a TVR Vixen and an early Landie with a broken rear halfshaft which he could not afford to fix so it was left in front wheel drive.
The TVR always had electrical problems (earthing) and the footwells were full of water when it rained.
I spent nearly as much time trying to help fix the cars as I spent in the lectures.
tvrbod said:
I have had Four TVR's (still have one), and never had a breakdown in one of them.
LOL! I had two breakdowns in 5 yrs with a Griff as a DD, but never a third as I always kept a spare throttle cable with me afterwards. String through the window to the throttle butterfly was the 'get you home' (this was in the days before the AA) 
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