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Neil1300R
2,953 posts
48 months
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DB9VolanteDriver said: How about Aston Martin Vanguard ? Trouble with Vanguard, is some of us remember our parents habing onr. And even with the rose tinted glasses on, it cannot be described as sporty or even a GT! Did have bench front seat though! 
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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jonby said: I do wonder what will happen in 20 yrs time though, when people refer to Vanquish, DBS, V8 Vantage, etc how on earth will people know what they are talking about ? At least with the 911 (993, 996, 997, etc)or say a Mercedes E class (W***), they are referred to by chassis designation - with AM, other than year of manufacture, it will get quite difficult....... Pre-1989 911s were called '911', no factory model numbers until the 964 really except racers and turbos... However, what you did have were variations in engine size so when someone says 911, in lieu of offering '996' as the type, they'd say '3.2' and so on. The V12 has always been six litres so can't differentiate that way. I suppose Mk1 and Mk2 (or MkII) will have to be it. Unless this is a spectacular double bluff or some clever market research 
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Armen
50 posts
18 months
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I really doubt it will be called Vanquish
As you said yeti, either a bluff, or a market research
Gaydon, if you read us, call it whatever you want but not Vanquish
Vulcano would be great
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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Armen said: I really doubt it will be called Vanquish
As you said yeti, either a bluff, or a market research
Gaydon, if you read us, call it whatever you want but not Vanquish
Vulcano would be great I certainly agree just because we have spotted a car with the badge doesn't make it a certainty - I was under the impression they hadn't made their minds up yet and don't really see if they had decided, why they wouldn't release the name at the preview events - surely the name is the least important detail to keep secret ? I think their problem is that they don't want to use DB* for reasons I half agree with, they want specific individual names, they probably want it to start with a V and there just aren't that many options, particularly once you take into account names registered by other companies and other countries perception/translation/ease of pronunciation But unless they deviate from the policy the name has to start with a V, perhaps even by going to some kind of sensible numbering system, this problem will keep raising it's head again every time their is a new car - it will happen soon with the base GT unless they keep the Virage name for that
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Armen
50 posts
18 months
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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Riccardino said: PS: Volcano (in italian Vulcanolike the island) does not take the name from the island but from a mitological God Vulcano. The Island (one of the Eolie, close to Sicily) was also named after him as it is was his favourite place (and bythe way there is also a Volcano there). If we could run geological stuff past me first chaps... Vulcano is indeed an Aeolian island and takes it name from the Roman god of the forge (greek equivalent Hephaestos for those who saw Wrath of the Titans recently). However, the usage/meaning of the word 'Volcano' is thought to come from the name of the island! The Aeolian islands are all volcanically created, they are on a plate margin - a young island arc. The Aeolian Islands are also named after the Roman god of the wind Aeolus  And one of the Aeolian Islands is Stromboli, which gives its name to a type of low magnitude reruption type. Only Stromboli is still active. I could go on, I won't. Just bored of Paleontology at the moment, teaching Jurassic stuff in Dorset soon. Nice to watch things blow up instead of looking at dead cephalopods 
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RichB
24,383 posts
154 months
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I'm amazed to have gone away for a few hours for dinner only to return and see I have written something some of you have taken seriously.  Mind you I was the first to suggest the name TVR Typhon (not Typhoon) as a succesor to the Cerbera and it made it to market so perhaps I have a knack for it
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Armen
50 posts
18 months
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Let's hope so
No really, Vanquish is not possible for that car ! The Vanquish is the Vanquish, the one built from 2001 to 19th July 2007 at Newport-Pagnell, period.
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Stuart Dickinson
897 posts
77 months
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Aston Martin Volvo??? 
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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Twin Turbo said: Wow, I haven't seen that since... 2 pages back on this thread Why do you think we're talking about it?
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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Armen said: Why not V570 ? Because its awful? Sounds like a Volvo! What does the V stand for?
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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jonby said: they want specific individual names, they probably want it to start with a V and there just aren't that many options, particularly once you take into account names registered by other companies and other countries perception/translation/ease of pronunciation Agree with this... As above, Vanguard has been used, just looked up Valiant... I know it was a 'V' bomber but was also a Chrysler/Plymouth of the 1960s! Of course they could make up a word like Vantage. Or use a foreign word like Volante (flying) or Virage (bend/corner). I'm coming round to Vanquish II. The DB9 is then replaced by the Virage and DBS by a Virage S? Lots of power available now to make it halfway between the 490bhp Virage and 570bhp Vanquish. Virage S at 530bhp..? All V12s will have carbon brakes too, even the base GT, very cool. The writing was on the wall with Virage having no manual transmission option 
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PieterA
171 posts
30 months
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yeti said: The writing was on the wall with Virage having no manual transmission option A few months back (AM On Ice) I was talking to Wolfgang Schuhbauer. And he confirmed that Aston would further develop their manual tranny. But weather he was talking just on behalf of the Vantage series or just plain clap trap, I'm not sure anymore. First the Vantage S without a manual, now the AM310. It's not looking good.
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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PieterA said: First the Vantage S without a manual, now the AM310. It's not looking good. I reckon just for the short wheelbase sportier cars as you suggest, the Vantage and its successor. Doubt they'll ever drop a manual option for that, not while the 911 and Gallardo still have one...
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Vee12V
171 posts
30 months
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yeti said: I reckon just for the short wheelbase sportier cars as you suggest, the Vantage and its successor. Doubt they'll ever drop a manual option for that, not while the 911 and Gallardo still have one... Just as with the Aventador, the successor to the Gallardo won't have a manual. And Porsche has sort of neglected the development of the current 7-speed manual. Which in essence is the same unit as the PDK is. My guess is that they'll drop it in the successor of the 991. Even the 991 GT3 is said to possibly be PDK-only.
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George H
10,483 posts
34 months
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yeti said: I reckon just for the short wheelbase sportier cars as you suggest, the Vantage and its successor. Doubt they'll ever drop a manual option for that, not while the 911 and Gallardo still have one... I reckon when the next gen baby Lambo comes out it won't have a manual option. I'm sure I read something about Audi developing a new DSG style gearbox for the R8 too. The 991 has a 7 speed manual doesn't it? Sounds like a gimmick to me to be honest. Isn't there rumours of the 991 GT3 being a PDK system too?
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AstonZagato
3,271 posts
80 months
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yeti said: Armen said: Why not V570 ? Because its awful? Sounds like a Volvo! What does the V stand for? I think it was a snide reference to the lower power of this car compared to the V600 versions of the late 90's Twin Supercharged Vantage (and especially the Vantage V600 Le Mans).
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yeti
7,160 posts
145 months
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AstonZagato said: I think it was a snide reference to the lower power of this car compared to the V600 versions of the late 90's Twin Supercharged Vantage (and especially the Vantage V600 Le Mans). I know that... But as you say, that was on a car that already had a name too! Vanquish V570 might work... 570bhp very respectable from a normally aspirated engine which will do 100k+ miles or so without any issues Did the V600 ever have a reliable regular 600bhp? I somehow doubt it. Who would have bothered testing it!
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George H
10,483 posts
34 months
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yeti said: Did the V600 ever have a reliable regular 600bhp? I somehow doubt it. Who would have bothered testing it! Who cares, they're still epic! I must have one some day
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Zod
23,492 posts
128 months
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PieterA said: A few months back (AM On Ice) I was talking to Wolfgang Schuhbauer. And he confirmed that Aston would further develop their manual tranny. But weather he was talking just on behalf of the Vantage series or just plain clap trap, I'm not sure anymore.
First the Vantage S without a manual, now the AM310. It's not looking good. I was told that there is a strong desire to keep a manual car in the line-up, so that suggests the Vantage replacement may still offer it. No interest in DCTs at this point.
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