DBS values

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Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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KevinBird said:
Bincenzo said:
Sorry, I may have just had a small microsleep........are you saying HWM are willing to do that sort of deal, or that they will just confirm their thoughts on the appreciation likely on the DBS. IF I could get a Vanquish S for my DBS, it would happen right now.
They're keen to buy but I've no idea what spec you car is, just give them a call?
Thanks Kevin. I've just spoken to them, purely about how they see residuals going. Not anywhere near £250k. Not even close, so that figure probably needs to be taken with a degree of NaCl, for those that were getting excited.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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I have a close friend on the look out for a manual coupe, pref/prob black or A.N.other dark colour - Quantum possibly, but nothing lighter


cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Bincenzo said:
Thanks Kevin. I've just spoken to them, purely about how they see residuals going. Not anywhere near £250k. Not even close, so that figure probably needs to be taken with a degree of NaCl, for those that were getting excited.
I think the figure £250 was meant to mean what they might achieve in future years not now.
What did they say when you asked if they would take yours against a new Vanquish S? laugh

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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cayman-black said:
I think the figure £250 was meant to mean what they might achieve in future years not now.
What did they say when you asked if they would take yours against a new Vanquish S? laugh
I wasn't stupid enough to ask that question, I was merely asking his opinion on residuals.

Slarti650

1,828 posts

154 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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If there's a quantum or CR DBS manual out there for sale then I'm interested.

trigbush

250 posts

126 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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A dealer in the Netherlands just hiked his DBS CBE price up to EUR 195000 from EUR 164000

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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There, over night increase.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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This time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires.....

AMDBSVNick

6,994 posts

162 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Bincenzo said:
This time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires.....
thumbup

vpr

3,709 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Must be worth investing in a manual conversion now

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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vpr said:
Must be worth investing in a manual conversion now
I know these are not true classics just yet, but a manual conversion on a classic car is a major 'no no'. If you really wanted a manual DBS and were intending to keep it you will probably be better off biting the bullet now and paying the difference to "upgrade"

KevinBird

1,036 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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trigbush said:
A dealer in the Netherlands just hiked his DBS CBE price up to EUR 195000 from EUR 164000
Or 295,000 Euros for a roofless manual

https://kroymans.nl/stock/stock-detail/12850743/As...

Mad but as predicted.....

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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KevinBird said:
trigbush said:
A dealer in the Netherlands just hiked his DBS CBE price up to EUR 195000 from EUR 164000
Or 295,000 Euros for a roofless manual

https://kroymans.nl/stock/stock-detail/12850743/As...

Mad but as predicted.....
Holy. Mother. Of God. Nick!!

AWV12

600 posts

147 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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As posted elsewhere before:

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Let's try to make an estimate: in total about 3385 DBS have been produced over the years 2007-2012 (see http://www.amoc.org/forum/index.php?topic=26176.0)... first and last year probably not so much, and peak in 2010 and 2011. Split Coupe/Volante 50/50? And TT2/manual 90/10 (95/5 for the Volante).

This makes the following estimate:
- 2007: 300 (Coupe, Manual)
- 2008: 500 (C, M)
- 2009: 700 (500 C (300 M, 200 TT), 200 Volante (50 M, 150 TT))
- 2010: 800 (400 C (40 M, 360 TT), 400 V (20 M, 380 TT))
- 2011: 800 (400 C (40 M, 360 TT), 400 V (20 M, 380 TT))
- 2012: 285 (140 C (14 M, 126 TT), 145 V (5 M, 140 TT))

So in total: 3385 DBS, of which 2240 Coupes (1194 Manual, 1046 TT2) and 1145 Volantes (95 Manual, 1050 TT).
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As we know from later postings, the number of Volantes is about 852, and the number of manual Volantes is much lower than 95, "less than 60" is what I got back from the factory a while ago, and according to other sources it is only 43.

Split LHD / RHD can be interesting addition to this guestimate.

About the Manual DBS Volante (LHD) at Kroymans: the price includes approx Euro 35-40K CO2 tax, so for export you can substract that (See other posting on this).

Edited by AWV12 on Tuesday 29th November 19:45

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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In which case the Kroymanns car is a snip at €260k. Would anybody on here pay that money?

AMDBSVNick

6,994 posts

162 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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AWV12 said:
Split LHD / RHD can be interesting addition to this guestimate.
As posted previously an absolute fact is there are 8 RHD cars.

UK 7
SA 1

This was from a very senior director at the factory whose identity I promised to protect for no other reason than he didn't want endless requests for how many Blue blah blah etc.

vpr

3,709 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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RobDown said:
vpr said:
Must be worth investing in a manual conversion now
I know these are not true classics just yet, but a manual conversion on a classic car is a major 'no no'. If you really wanted a manual DBS and were intending to keep it you will probably be better off biting the bullet now and paying the difference to "upgrade"
Not a major No No.

In fact many Astons are converted back and forth from auto to manual back to auto and so on. Even colour changes aren't that frowned upon.

I know many Etype V12's which have been converted to Manuals and the value is hightened. Automatic boxes in most classics are not great.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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KevinBird said:
trigbush said:
A dealer in the Netherlands just hiked his DBS CBE price up to EUR 195000 from EUR 164000
Or 295,000 Euros for a roofless manual

https://kroymans.nl/stock/stock-detail/12850743/As...

Mad but as predicted.....
" a blue chip investment for sure"

For sure. laugh

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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vpr said:
Not a major No No.

In fact many Astons are converted back and forth from auto to manual back to auto and so on. Even colour changes aren't that frowned upon.

I know many Etype V12's which have been converted to Manuals and the value is hightened. Automatic boxes in most classics are not great.
Not my experience with classic Astons whatsoever. Changing the transmissions is a real no and unfortunately the automatic Borg-Warner transmissions are not brilliant. Colour changes reduce the value generally but are easier to reverse if the buyer is fussed

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Sorry going a bit off topic there