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Simon T
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Porsche....   S
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Zod
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127 months
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George H said: yeti said: Just out of interest, what's the 12 o'clock stitching for? Have seen it on certain performance cars (911 GT3) but I've never had it and never missed it. I seem to know when the front wheels are pointing forwards Is it a drifting thing..? No idea. There's a little dimple at 12 o'clock anyway on the steering wheel, so I don't really know why you would need the stitching. There's a dimple on the DB9, but not on the Vantage, so you need the stitching. It's not for maintaining the straight-ahead, but to aid you in returning the wheel to straight-ahead when your hands have moved on the wheel.
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Jockman
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George H said: yeti said: Just out of interest, what's the 12 o'clock stitching for? Have seen it on certain performance cars (911 GT3) but I've never had it and never missed it. I seem to know when the front wheels are pointing forwards Is it a drifting thing..? No idea. There's a little dimple at 12 o'clock anyway on the steering wheel, so I don't really know why you would need the stitching. I don't even have a dimple.....in fact I have nothing but plain leather.....must be the economy one I have  I quite like the 12 o'clock stitching - nice effect and I would pay for it
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yeti
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Simon T said:  Any racer who either needs a line on the wheel or has the time to look at it should not be allowed out of the paddock Any chance you might give the real reason for it then? Once your easily induced mirth has died down, naturally
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mikey k
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85 months
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Zod said: There's a dimple on the DB9, but not on the Vantage, so you need the stitching.
It's not for maintaining the straight-ahead, but to aid you in returning the wheel to straight-ahead when your hands have moved on the wheel. Exactly what I was taught the key part being WHEN your hands have moved Next thing I was taught was how not to move your hands  It does look nice though and implies a track bias apparently
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mikey k
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Jockman said: I don't even have a dimple.....in fact I have nothing but plain leather.....must be the economy one I have I quite like the 12 o'clock stitching - nice effect and I would pay for it I think it was a special order with subsequent owners driving style in mind - no dimple and crap geometry
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Simon T
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142 months
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yeti said: Any chance you might give the real reason for it then? Once your easily induced mirth has died down, naturally No idea tbh, probably just a fashion thing, like furry dice or neon underfloor lights Surely you know where straight ahead is as the car will be going straight? Does anyone really need a line on the wheel to tell them that? what happens to drivers in all the cars that don't have it, do the struggle to drive straight? could explain a lot I guess... S
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Zod
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127 months
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mikey k said: Zod said: There's a dimple on the DB9, but not on the Vantage, so you need the stitching.
It's not for maintaining the straight-ahead, but to aid you in returning the wheel to straight-ahead when your hands have moved on the wheel. Exactly what I was taught the key part being WHEN your hands have moved Next thing I was taught was how not to move your hands It does look nice though and implies a track bias apparently Fixed input steering does indeed imply a track bias, but plenty of road corners, particularly in town, require you to move your hands, as do Alpine roads.
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KarlFranz
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139 months
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jonby said: Exactly. For me of course, as I'm not going motor racing, it's purely a cosmetic thing. But also, I'm not a fan of the colour coded steering wheels, especially as it's rare to find one on an Aston that's not two tone which I think looks messy. So it's a way to tie in the wheel with the rest of the interior through the stitching
What really upsets me however is that AM portray 'whatever you want at a cost', I have a pretty mundane request in the scheme of things and I'm just being told 'no' without even an explanantion - it's becoming something of a point of principle now.......... As a matter of principle, tell them you are going to cancel your order if you don't get the spec for the stitching that you want. Then see if they're foolish enough to let a sale go over their intransigence.
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DB9VolanteDriver
733 posts
45 months
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Simon T said: No idea tbh, probably just a fashion thing, like furry dice or neon underfloor lights Surely you know where straight ahead is as the car will be going straight? Does anyone really need a line on the wheel to tell them that? what happens to drivers in all the cars that don't have it, do the struggle to drive straight? could explain a lot I guess... S Don't be so mirthsome.... This is quite common on race cars, if you didn't know. The purpose of having a 12 o'clock indicator on the steering wheel is for the occasion when you are in a spin on a track, not for 'normal' driving. Using the indicator, you can quickly and unambiguously position the front wheels straight ahead without waiting for the car to actually start going straight ahead.
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Simon T
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DB9VolanteDriver said: Don't be so mirthsome....
This is quite common on race cars, if you didn't know. The purpose of having a 12 o'clock indicator on the steering wheel is for the occasion when you are in a spin on a track, not for 'normal' driving. Using the indicator, you can quickly and unambiguously position the front wheels straight ahead without waiting for the car to actually start going straight ahead. Not on any of the race cars I have driven... But then I am in Europe, perhaps we are more used to corners S www.tillingmotorsport.comPs your theory would only apply on cars with less than 2 turns lock to lock
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mikey k
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85 months
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Zod said: mikey k said: Zod said: There's a dimple on the DB9, but not on the Vantage, so you need the stitching.
It's not for maintaining the straight-ahead, but to aid you in returning the wheel to straight-ahead when your hands have moved on the wheel. Exactly what I was taught the key part being WHEN your hands have moved Next thing I was taught was how not to move your hands It does look nice though and implies a track bias apparently Fixed input steering does indeed imply a track bias, but plenty of road corners, particularly in town, require you to move your hands, as do Alpine roads. True - I was taugh another trick to deal with those I'm over you way mid September if you fancy a few Alpine passes
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DB9VolanteDriver
733 posts
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Simon T said: Not on any of the race cars I have driven... But then I am in Europe, perhaps we are more used to corners S www.tillingmotorsport.comPs your theory would only apply on cars with less than 2 turns lock to lock It isn't a 'theory'...that's what its for, regardless of what you've seen or not seen.
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yeti
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144 months
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DB9VolanteDriver said: Using the indicator, you can quickly and unambiguously position the front wheels straight ahead without waiting for the car to actually start going straight ahead. Seems plausible to me. Slight sheen of sweat building up at the thought of spinning the DB9... It's an awfully big car 
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Jockman
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29 months
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mikey k said: I think it was a special order with subsequent owners driving style in mind - no dimple and crap geometry I don't want a dimple anyway.....I would feel as if I were looking at Michael Douglas' chin. It's the 12 o'clock stitching I like
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yeti
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144 months
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Jockman said: I don't want a dimple anyway.....I would feel as if I were looking at Michael Douglas' chin. It's the 12 o'clock stitching I like I think I have a dimple (chin and wheel). However, I might get the stitching so I can be like a racing type. Also, it might save me at some point
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Jockman
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29 months
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yeti said: I think I have a dimple (chin and wheel)... Ah, but your dimple does not consitute 45% of the surface area of your head. I believe Mr Douglas' has one that does
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