Vantage or F Type ?
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'And with a dab of oppo, I was away' 
Nice write up chaps, food for thought certainly and a nicely balanced review from two Aston fans as well.
As has been mentioned as a headline; 'new car beats old car shocker' so no surprises there. The Vantage is old, but aging beautifully; the fact in can still hold a candle to a brand new blank-sheet-of-paper-money-no-object-for design car is impressive.
No doubt Aston will be purchasing a couple of them and seeing just what they have to come up with to compete, if they decide to replace the Vantage...
Still haven't seen in the metal yet
Nice write up chaps, food for thought certainly and a nicely balanced review from two Aston fans as well.
As has been mentioned as a headline; 'new car beats old car shocker' so no surprises there. The Vantage is old, but aging beautifully; the fact in can still hold a candle to a brand new blank-sheet-of-paper-money-no-object-for design car is impressive.
No doubt Aston will be purchasing a couple of them and seeing just what they have to come up with to compete, if they decide to replace the Vantage...
Still haven't seen in the metal yet
No I am even more curiou to test it
A friend tested the V6 and it seem also very funny
Certainly also the noise even of the less powerful V6 is interesting
http://youtu.be/XYbkmWo1lIo
A friend tested the V6 and it seem also very funny
Certainly also the noise even of the less powerful V6 is interesting
http://youtu.be/XYbkmWo1lIo
I think Aston Martin could perhaps learn from the F-Type. Aston Martin are struggling to keep their product lineup fresh, and they lack the investment and expertise to start rolling out new cars and engines. They are instead continuing development of the VH platform from the DB9, and the only engines they have to play with are the 6.0 litre V12 from Ford, and the decades old AJV8 from Jaguar. This is massively holding them back at the moment, because (we hear it said) all their cars look the same, feel the same, sound the same. They really need an evolution.
But then look what Jaguar has achieved from the F-type. Certainly their budget is far bigger, but the F-type uses a shortened platform from the old XK, and a modified engine from the XKRS, which itself is a modified AJV8 unit. Even so, the F-type has a totally different character to the XK.
Jaguar appear to have done a good job with the F-Type, and you cannot tell that it was born from old components. I hope that the next Vantage will wow the buyers, or might Aston adopt the latest Ferrari tactic, of restricting the number of cars that it builds?
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Jon39 said:
I think Aston Martin could perhaps learn from the F-Type. Aston Martin are struggling to keep their product lineup fresh, and they lack the investment and expertise to start rolling out new cars and engines. They are instead continuing development of the VH platform from the DB9, and the only engines they have to play with are the 6.0 litre V12 from Ford, and the decades old AJV8 from Jaguar. This is massively holding them back at the moment, because (we hear it said) all their cars look the same, feel the same, sound the same. They really need an evolution.
But then look what Jaguar has achieved from the F-type. Certainly their budget is far bigger, but the F-type uses a shortened platform from the old XK, and a modified engine from the XKRS, which itself is a modified AJV8 unit. Even so, the F-type has a totally different character to the XK.
Jaguar appear to have done a good job with the F-Type, and you cannot tell that it was born from old components. I hope that the next Vantage will wow the buyers, or might Aston adopt the latest Ferrari tactic, of restricting the number of cars that it builds?
I don't see how the f type is any more different 'in character' to XK than Vantage is in character to DB9/Vanquish ?But then look what Jaguar has achieved from the F-type. Certainly their budget is far bigger, but the F-type uses a shortened platform from the old XK, and a modified engine from the XKRS, which itself is a modified AJV8 unit. Even so, the F-type has a totally different character to the XK.
Jaguar appear to have done a good job with the F-Type, and you cannot tell that it was born from old components. I hope that the next Vantage will wow the buyers, or might Aston adopt the latest Ferrari tactic, of restricting the number of cars that it builds?
Particularly as all Jags currently use an auto box, whether F type or Xk
We are also comparing one product at the beginning of it's product cycle to one at the end.
F type will sell well however
As for Ferrari tactics, we can only pray that they do as it would do wonders for their financial health, but somehow, I doubt it....
I saw one in the flesh on Monday at Stratford and I have to say that no matter how dynamically accomplished the F type is, I just wouldn't want one because it doesn't appeal to me visually. I think a large percentage of buyers for vantage / f-type are buying as much with their hearts as their heads, and the fact that one or the other is more accomplished in the hands of some driving god is not the most important factor when it comes to choosing between them. Most of us (cockernee can stop reading now ...) will probably not come close to stretching the envelope of either car in our normal driving.
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