Aston Martin owner said to approach suitors for sale

Aston Martin owner said to approach suitors for sale

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Basher

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998 posts

285 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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-- Aston Martin’s controlling shareholder, Investment Dar Co., has approached potential buyers for the maker of luxury sports cars featured in James Bond movies, said five people with knowledge of the matter.
The Kuwaiti company, which owns 64 percent of Gaydon, U.K.- based Aston Martin, has hired Rothschild to advise on the sale, said one of the people, who asked not to be identified because the talks are private. Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., the Indian automaker, is among potential suitors Investment Dar has approached in recent few months, two of the people said.

A sale has proven difficult because investors haven’t been willing to match the price the Kuwaiti owner paid five years ago, said two of the people. Investment Dar has sought about $800 million for its stake, one person said.
For Kuwait’s Investment Dar, part of the group that bought Aston Martin for 503 million pounds ($805 million) in 2007, the proceeds would help the company pay off debt.

So is the rumour in the market

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I would certainly be willing to make an offer, though I concede that it may be rejected outright smile

Guycord

744 posts

174 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Jockman said:
I would certainly be willing to make an offer, though I concede that it may be rejected outright smile
That sounds like a queue for a PH Astons Group buy.

+1

JBE68

246 posts

149 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Does it come with a warranty?

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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JBE68 said:
Does it come with a warranty?
rofl

Ironically, the kids were asking me earlier what I wanted for my birthday smile

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Can we not get Michael's wife to buy it? smile

Jockman

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161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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George H said:
Can we not get Michael's wife to buy it? smile
Nope.

She's the one selling it yes

JBE68

246 posts

149 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Last year AM had revenues of £474mn, operating profits of £35mn, net profits of £7.6mn and net assets of £333mn. Difficult to value the actual brand vs the operating business. I wonder if VW will add them to their stable of super car brands.

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I'm hoping for Merc. AMG engines cloud9

silverspeed

1,505 posts

231 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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JBE68 said:
Last year AM had revenues of £474mn, operating profits of £35mn, net profits of £7.6mn and net assets of £333mn. Difficult to value the actual brand vs the operating business. I wonder if VW will add them to their stable of super car brands.
Not sure where these figures came from they do have a Holdings Co but Co House shows A M Limited trading revenue £506m and LOSS £35m. They pay £50m+ a year in interest on loans !!

JBE68

246 posts

149 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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silverspeed said:
Not sure where these figures came from they do have a Holdings Co but Co House shows A M Limited trading revenue £506m and LOSS £35m. They pay £50m+ a year in interest on loans !!
Sorry, old numbers from 2010! Just shows the volatility of the business

brakedwell

1,229 posts

200 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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George H said:
I'm hoping for Merc. AMG engines cloud9
+1.

It could well happen as Porsche has been swallowed up by VAG.

mikey k

13,011 posts

217 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Jockman said:
I would certainly be willing to make an offer, though I concede that it may be rejected outright smile
Should we club together?

Speedraser

1,657 posts

184 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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JBE68 said:
I wonder if VW will add them to their stable of super car brands.
I really hope not. VW Group is all about platform sharing, and one of the most desirable aspects of the current Astons is that they are genuinely different from any other car. Under VW (and many others) AM would become just another brand sharing the same platform and driveline with any number of their other brands. I'd have zero interest in owning such an "Aston." I hope that whoever buys them treats them with the kind of beneficence that Ford did -- after the DB7, we got the wonderful cars of today that don't share platforms with anything else.

AdamV12V

5,049 posts

178 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Merc feels like a much better fit to me than VW.

VW already own Lambo and Bentley, AM feels like it overlaps too much there to me - plus who wants an R8 / Gallardo platform shared Vantage next... nono

johng39

3,059 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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silverspeed said:
JBE68 said:
Last year AM had revenues of £474mn, operating profits of £35mn, net profits of £7.6mn and net assets of £333mn. Difficult to value the actual brand vs the operating business. I wonder if VW will add them to their stable of super car brands.
Not sure where these figures came from they do have a Holdings Co but Co House shows A M Limited trading revenue £506m and LOSS £35m. They pay £50m+ a year in interest on loans !!
Probably a way of not paying UK tax. Buy the company, loan it money and then take extortionate interest to stop it making a profit, no tax paid but a healthy profit paying back the loan!!!

Problem is the company looks basically worthless save the assets. As Mikey, lets club together and offer £250M and see if we get it. Mikey can I borrow some dough I am short of a few quid this month!!!!

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

153 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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brakedwell said:
+1.

It could well happen as Porsche has been swallowed up by VAG.
Odd really... not that long ago Porsche were trying to buy VAG

brakedwell

1,229 posts

200 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Tony V12V said:
Odd really... not that long ago Porsche were trying to buy VAG
Porsche over extended itself, borrowing vast sums to purchase a controlling interest in Volkswagen. When it all went pear shaped Porsche, now burdened with massive debts, was too weak to fend off a VAG take over.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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mikey k said:
Should we club together?
You could conceivably go on your own with this one !!!

Mere petty cash to a man of your standing wink

V8V CG

134 posts

165 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Speedraser said:
I hope that whoever buys them treats them with the kind of beneficence that Ford did -- after the DB7, we got the wonderful cars of today that don't share platforms with anything else.
No chance Ford, who were a wonderful owner, would like to buy Aston Martin back?