The Truth about Vantage clutches!

The Truth about Vantage clutches!

Poll: The Truth about Vantage clutches!

Total Members Polled: 214

ASM1 no issues: 32
ASM1 clutch died: 8
V8 Manual no issues: 104
V8 Manual clutch died: 34
V12 Manual no issues: 33
V12 Manual clutch died: 3
ASM2 no issues: 9
ASM2 clutch died: 4
Author
Discussion

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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The seems to be a lot of mythology about the life of clutches on the Vantage so lets have a bit of a straw poll wink
Tick as many options as apply to your Vantage/s ownership
Feel free to let us know what sort of mileages are involved.
I'll kick off with my two;

MY09 ASM1 23k miles no issues
MY12 ASM2 10k miles no issues

robgt

2,585 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I think that it is most unfortunate that when my S was delivered that I was not made aware of clutch learn. This involves starting the car whilst your foot is kept on the brake. After a second or two you hear a click. This means the clutch is in its optimum position ie it will not slip when pulling away. This procedure will ensure its longevity.
Whilst my car was at Bamford Rose for its manifold job I asked about having their twin plate clutch fitted. Mike told me in no uncertain terms that it would not be necessary because there are no issues of premature wear with ASM 2. My only benefit would be their lightened flywheel. I trust Mike implicitly bearing in mind that his honesty was to his financial detriment .

Hopefully by the end of January my car will boast 480 BHP. Mike assures that there will still not be a problem.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Which option covers the straw Mikey confused

What's a clutch Mikey confused

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

178 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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MY2006.5 Manual clutch 33k miles. No problems
Should it fail in the near future I'll blame Mikey for asking! laugh

Edited by Neil1300R on Thursday 20th December 16:49

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Yep the 2 factory guys I've discussed this with said the same thing. Dealers are not teach owners clutch learns. It is a lot easier on ASM2 as the N button flashes until it has done it.
Rob yours has ~11k miles on it now?

Jon39

12,812 posts

143 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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MY 09 V8 Manual 11,0000 miles. No issues.

Having heard myths / truths about fragile clutches, I have not been brave enough to try using the 420bhp, for even one tyre smoking start.

I normally try to match engine speed during gear changes, but do sometimes notice what I assume is clutch smell, after a drive. Quite a pleasant aroma though.

millsjq

143 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Ops, I am from Chicago can I vote more than once? I have 09 Sportsshift with 14K miles with no issues to date, but I voted for ASM1 thinking of the Vantage S as ASM2, vice ASM3

Neilc123

258 posts

143 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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A really good question however I think the problem here is that it depends how much you use it and how you actually use it which may affect the clutch life more. Still interesting to know people's experiences.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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2006 V8 manual 4.3 , 24000 miles, no snags yet! I tend to be a little paranoid when pulling away and being stuck in traffic, so hoping to extend the life as far as possible. When it goes pop, I'll be making a visit to BR.....

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

152 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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2006 V8V 4.3 11k miles - No problemo
2010 V12V Carbon Black 8.5k miles - No problemo

bogie

16,375 posts

272 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Jan 2006 V8V manual

63K miles to date, inc 2 track days, fun drag racing, airfield driver training

no issues - original clutch, last dealer "free health check" aka attempt to relieve you of cash and the report said " clutch a bit high, likely worn" ...yeah, no st smile


Johnfrancis

370 posts

150 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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28,000 miles, 3 track days, standing starts with tyre smoke etc etc, just VERY careful not to ride the clutch, and VERY VERY careful when reversing.

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

152 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Johnfrancis said:
careful not to ride the clutch.
Ah that old trick eh rolleyes

Do the same myself - Engage brain - Disengage clutch and select first gear - Engage clutch - Operate speed control pedal - Disengage brain - Simples

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Tony V12V said:
Johnfrancis said:
careful not to ride the clutch.
Ah that old trick eh rolleyes

Do the same myself - Engage brain - Disengage clutch and select first gear - Engage clutch - Operate speed control pedal - Disengage brain - Simples
IMHO that is probably the crux of it
ASM's with clutch learns do that consistently, human beans not so much

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

152 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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mikey k said:
human beans not so much
Do you mean these sort of human beans aka coffee beans on the emoticons link hehe



krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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2007MY V8 Manual - 39k no issues

AMArchie

269 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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MY 2010 V12V 8,500 miles - no problems

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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MY09 ASM1 21k New Clutch

Dealership wanted to put in a new clutch when I sold the car, I wasn't convinced it was needed yet but the buyer wanted peace of mind so it was done. The usage until then was predominantly London based so I was surprised it lasted that long. Certainly a bit of damage was done to it while on holiday in Monaco; think 40C underground garages, parking on hills, and/or sitting in traffic up and down the Monaco hills - I had a clutch overheating message a few times.

However, outside of London driving it never really got thumped hard or raced from starts etc. Clutch learns were done regularly for the last 15k miles.

Edited by Shmee on Thursday 20th December 23:30

robgt

2,585 posts

162 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Mikey,
11780 miles to date, no problem with the clutch at all
Rear brake pads shot ! BR are changing them in January

Happy Christmas

theno23

865 posts

210 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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V8 Manual 08 (N400, but the clutch is the same)

Clutch went at 20k miles, but I was able to limp home on it from northern France, so it wasn't dramatic.

The clutch hadn't had an easy life in the last 5k miles, a mix of London traffic and ragging it round alps smile

Now have the BR multiplate sintered job, and very happy with it. It doesn't cook even in heavy traffic crawls, and tricky reversing manoeuvres. Still can't reverse uphill though! Done about 1.5k on the BR clutch.

- Steve