rapide S

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Speedraser

1,657 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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I don't think the new huge mouth looks bad, but I do think it looks less good than it did before.

BTW, I'm not unhappy that the Rapide S has the "old" interior; I don't like the new Vanquish interior as much. IMO, the stitching in the new Vanq is overdone (though optional), the dash looks a bit blunt, the air vent surrounds on each end of the dash are far too big and over-styled, the door panels are fine but less distinctive, and it's a shame that the nav screen will need to be raised all or nearly all of the time. That sounds like I don't like it, which is not at all the case, but I definitely prefer the DB9/Rapide/Vantage interior.

brakedwell

1,229 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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hartley said:
Love the new mouth , bit disappointed in the unchanged interior - have they stretched it and added the necessary additional rear foot room ? If the 8 speed is coming who's going to buy the 6 speed now ?
I too like the new grille, but without additional rear passenger space the car will still be compromised. According to the brochure it is only 1mm longer than the current Rapide and there is no mention of improved rear passenger space. With a length of 5020mm, only 107mm less than an XJ, it should have enough room to accommodate four adults in comfort over long distances. If not it remains a practical stretched DB9 or an impractical 4 door 2+2 GT long distance cruiser, which is a pity. It will be interesting to see how the arrival of the new "S" effects "Classic" Rapide residuals.

Vantagefan

643 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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I agree Brakedwell, it wasn't the grille that needed changing - without more legroom and easier access to the rear seats it is still flawed.

chandrew

979 posts

210 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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brakedwell said:
It will be interesting to see how the arrival of the new "S" effects "Classic" Rapide residuals.
I'm hoping that they take a hit as there is nothing here that makes it so much better that I would want to pay the surplus over a current one. There are quite a few new ones sitting in the Swiss dealers and alternatively I'm also hoping that a few folks with current ones have to have one of the new ones.

I got a call yesterday from the local dealer to inform me that it was announced and I'll probably go to Geneva to see it.

Does anyone know if production of the Rapide (original version) ever started in the UK? I'd have thought if you knew you were about to launch a new car you'd wait until then before starting.

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

156 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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chandrew said:
I'm hoping that they take a hit as there is nothing here that makes it so much better that I would want to pay the surplus over a current one. There are quite a few new ones sitting in the Swiss dealers and alternatively I'm also hoping that a few folks with current ones have to have one of the new ones.

I got a call yesterday from the local dealer to inform me that it was announced and I'll probably go to Geneva to see it.

Does anyone know if production of the Rapide (original version) ever started in the UK? I'd have thought if you knew you were about to launch a new car you'd wait until then before starting.
Yes they did produce them at Gaydon. When I was there in October saw them being built. They use the Vantage production line to build them on.

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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chandrew said:
I'm hoping that they take a hit as there is nothing here that makes it so much better that I would want to pay the surplus over a current one. There are quite a few new ones sitting in the Swiss dealers and alternatively I'm also hoping that a few folks with current ones have to have one of the new ones.

I got a call yesterday from the local dealer to inform me that it was announced and I'll probably go to Geneva to see it.

Does anyone know if production of the Rapide (original version) ever started in the UK? I'd have thought if you knew you were about to launch a new car you'd wait until then before starting.
All Rapide production moved to Gaydon ~ 18 months ago

Grant3

3,635 posts

256 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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I agree about the compromised rear seating, but it is still comparable with the Bentley GT , which in reality is the Rapide's main competitor IMO. The power hike makes the S competitive with the Speed, but this is a small part of Bentley's sales, so the S will still remain a very low volume niche product...... they need to introduce a less powerful torque heavy ( maybe charged V8) model near the Conti v8's 125k or price the S more competitively, but I'm sure they are aware of this wink The grill has ruined the stylish looks for me, but It certainly has presence.. Imagine that gaping maw filling your mirrors on the motorway!

hornbaek

3,678 posts

236 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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I don't get the idea of it being the Rapide that gets the 310 Engine as the first car in the line up. Nobody has ever said that it it needs more power and as the only none sports car in the line up this should not be the first port of call. They should have put this engine in the V12V as a first car and then drip feed it down the range thereafter.

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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hornbaek said:
I don't get the idea of it being the Rapide that gets the 310 Engine as the first car in the line up. Nobody has ever said that it it needs more power and as the only none sports car in the line up this should not be the first port of call. They should have put this engine in the V12V as a first car and then drip feed it down the range thereafter.
I agree... doesn't seem to make much sense does it?

That engine should perhaps have gone into the V12VRs I think as a true halo project.

But then the 310 should have had the 8speed ZF, ASM II or a manual option and should have been in Skyfall somewhere! Who knows what Aston/Bez are playing at these days. One weird decision after another confused

George29

14,707 posts

165 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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hornbaek said:
I don't get the idea of it being the Rapide that gets the 310 Engine as the first car in the line up. Nobody has ever said that it it needs more power and as the only none sports car in the line up this should not be the first port of call. They should have put this engine in the V12V as a first car and then drip feed it down the range thereafter.
Actually I've heard quite a few people saying it could do with more power.

If you compare it to the Panamera Turbo and other less niche rivals such as the CLS 63, M6 Gran Coupe, Audi RS7 etc, it does start to look a little underpowered with 470bhp. This brings it right back to where it should be imo.

Although I agree the V12V should have that engine.

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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hornbaek said:
I don't get the idea of it being the Rapide that gets the 310 Engine as the first car in the line up. Nobody has ever said that it it needs more power and as the only none sports car in the line up this should not be the first port of call. They should have put this engine in the V12V as a first car and then drip feed it down the range thereafter.
Agreed.

They've "fixed" a problem no one knew existed by fitting a more powerful engine whilst simultaneously ignoring the real problem (and the reason for the car's existence), rear space.

Odd indeed.

mikey k

13,011 posts

217 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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George29 said:
Although I agree the V12V should have that engine.
I suspect your wish may come true when the new Vantage arrives wink
The Rapide was simply update before the Vantage (is it in the DB9 yet? - oh wait that will be the DBS or Virage winklaugh )

brakedwell

1,229 posts

200 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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mikey k said:
I suspect your wish ideamay come true when the new Vantage arrives wink
The Rapide was simply update before the Vantage (is it in the DB9 yet? - oh wait that will be the DBS or Virage winklaugh )
Could be in a DB9 S driving

josh bear

548 posts

184 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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so, forgive me for being slow but has the rapide s replaced the rapid? I note the rapide s is the only one on the AM website.

Josh