Johnny 550 is Coming!

[yeti]

mikey k said:

you've lost me on the ringing?

My guess would be the sounds of a police siren

[yeti]

mikey k said:

I suspect there will be some interesting conversations at Gaydon tomorrow (Ian I guess you now know we fixed the gearbox despite your efforts )

I heard about this Mikey - I hope you go public with the information, I think people need to know what the metality is at Aston Martin HQ. Scummy behaviour.

Congrats on the car, makes my gentle waft home from Bedforshire in the Morgan seem as tame as it actually was

[mikey k]

yeti said:

mikey k said:

I suspect there will be some interesting conversations at Gaydon tomorrow (Ian I guess you now know we fixed the gearbox despite your efforts )

I heard about this Mikey - I hope you go public with the information, I think people need to know what the metality is at Aston Martin HQ. Scummy behaviour.

Congrats on the car, makes my gentle waft home from Bedforshire in the Morgan seem as tame as it actually was

Oh I will I'm not done with that yet!

[robgt]

V12woollie said:

George29 said:

robgt said:

Oh Dear V12 Woollie , you are about to be put in your place. Bamford Rose's latest creation is about to eclipse any thing currently available in V12 trim. Mikey's little bomb shell will prove that point . BR are producing V12 trouncing v8 engine cars that will prove you so very wrong!

A highly modified car beating performance of standard car... amazing!

Do the same to a V12V then compare...

Exactly

Sort of missed my point which was that a BR'd V8 will outperform a std V12V. Which in point of fact would appear to be the case. I believe that the prototype V12Vantage that is at NP is pumping out 600 plus BHP. Dr Bez refused to sign it off for production! Also whilst at Silverstone talking to one of the team mangers he told me that they can easily extract 700 BHP from the V12 engine. Unfortunately the engines are fitted with huge air restrictors to reduce the power output.

[Y100]

robgt said:

V12woollie said:

George29 said:

robgt said:

Oh Dear V12 Woollie , you are about to be put in your place. Bamford Rose's latest creation is about to eclipse any thing currently available in V12 trim. Mikey's little bomb shell will prove that point . BR are producing V12 trouncing v8 engine cars that will prove you so very wrong!

A highly modified car beating performance of standard car... amazing!

Do the same to a V12V then compare...

Exactly

Sort of missed my point which was that a BR'd V8 will outperform a std V12V. Which in point of fact would appear to be the case. I believe that the prototype V12Vantage that is at NP is pumping out 600 plus BHP. Dr Bez refused to sign it off for production! Also whilst at Silverstone talking to one of the team mangers he told me that they can easily extract 700 BHP from the V12 engine. Unfortunately the engines are fitted with huge air restrictors to reduce the power output.

700 BHP and its so simple and cheap. Mike, Mike, pretty please, book Vesuvius in for a 'huge air restrictors-ectomy and get me a set of unrestricted air restrictors whatsits,,,,but only if you promise to complete before Snetterton.

[robgt]

L0TT0 said:

robgt said:

L0TT0 said:

I always remember being told many years ago of a quote from someone who 'knew' that "there is no substitution for cc's".

Sorry Tony, there is, It's called a turbo! AM's new engine will be 4ltr twin turbo circa 500BHP

You will get blown away by one then Rob (see what I did there)

I assume you already have one on order then Rob and the necessary upgrades to engine and clutch are already ordered too

Might have!! Not telling! Anyway if the new model is fitted with an AMG engine, clutch and gearbox it will not require upgrading! Sorry!

[jonby]

robgt said:

I believe that the prototype V12Vantage that is at NP is pumping out 600 plus BHP. Dr Bez refused to sign it off for production! Also whilst at Silverstone talking to one of the team mangers he told me that they can easily extract 700 BHP from the V12 engine. Unfortunately the engines are fitted with huge air restrictors to reduce the power output.

Not sure the first point about 'refusing to sign off for production' is entirely fair. I'm sure a quick google search will confirm the specifics, but basically the prototype was running with some race car related mechanics - IIRC elements of the engine, cooling systems, etc that simply were never feasible from a practicality, reliability or legal perspective in a production road car.

I assume your latter point is referring to the race cars being strangled by FIA regs ?

Don't get me wrong - I have no doubt that if this block was being used in a current car by Porsche or Ferrari, it would be developed to produce significantly more power. There is no question in my mind that outputs are partially restricted by lack AML's of £s. But at the same time, we have to accept some elements of what say BR do could never be realistically done in a road legal production car by a 'proper manufacturer' (i.e. one producing more than a handful of cars a year)

[L0TT0]

V12woollie said:

George29 said:

robgt said:

Oh Dear V12 Woollie , you are about to be put in your place. Bamford Rose's latest creation is about to eclipse any thing currently available in V12 trim. Mikey's little bomb shell will prove that point . BR are producing V12 trouncing v8 engine cars that will prove you so very wrong!

A highly modified car beating performance of standard car... amazing!

Do the same to a V12V then compare...

Exactly

As hard as I try not to I find myself agreeing with the Northern one

[L0TT0]

robgt said:

Might have!! Not telling! Anyway if the new model is fitted with an AMG engine, clutch and gearbox it will not require upgrading! Sorry!

You don't have to apologise, I make allowances

So will your new one outperform, in standard from, the current flagship sports model aka V12VS

Guess it's quite an issue for many other manufacturers also, like say Ferrari, not to produce a new model that makes current stuff seem TOO out dated and hit values, residuals and desirability.

If only we had a crystal ball.........

[Cockernee]

yeti said:

mikey k said:

you've lost me on the ringing?

My guess would be the sounds of a police siren

short memory my Gaydon loop friend the ringing from the push bike trying to overtake us on the Friday five run . I guess that won't happen now.

[mikey k]

jonby said:

Don't get me wrong - I have no doubt that if this block was being used in a current car by Porsche or Ferrari, it would be developed to produce significantly more power. There is no question in my mind that outputs are partially restricted by lack AML's of £s. But at the same time, we have to accept some elements of what say BR do could never be realistically done in a road legal production car by a 'proper manufacturer' (i.e. one producing more than a handful of cars a year)

Absolutely
BR created a 5.0 GT4 engine and it will appear in race cars in the near future, where it will be hobbled by regulation.
If you are brave and have deep pockets you can hand your car over to Prodrive who will give an Aston Martin approved V8 or V12 engine that will blow your socks off. Not a chance you will see these in production cars from Gaydon though!
That said much of what was done to Johnny had already been proven a while ago but was not sanctioned for release for one reason or another. I'm lucky enough to be reaping the benefits

[mikey k]

robgt said:

L0TT0 said:

robgt said:

L0TT0 said:

I always remember being told many years ago of a quote from someone who 'knew' that "there is no substitution for cc's".

Sorry Tony, there is, It's called a turbo! AM's new engine will be 4ltr twin turbo circa 500BHP

You will get blown away by one then Rob (see what I did there)

I assume you already have one on order then Rob and the necessary upgrades to engine and clutch are already ordered too

Might have!! Not telling! Anyway if the new model is fitted with an AMG engine, clutch and gearbox it will not require upgrading! Sorry!

Ask him in a couple of weeks

[yeti]

jonby said:

Not sure the first point about 'refusing to sign off for production' is entirely fair. I'm sure a quick google search will confirm the specifics, but basically the prototype was running with some race car related mechanics - IIRC elements of the engine, cooling systems, etc that simply were never feasible from a practicality, reliability or legal perspective in a production road car.

I assume your latter point is referring to the race cars being strangled by FIA regs ?

Don't get me wrong - I have no doubt that if this block was being used in a current car by Porsche or Ferrari, it would be developed to produce significantly more power. There is no question in my mind that outputs are partially restricted by lack AML's of £s. But at the same time, we have to accept some elements of what say BR do could never be realistically done in a road legal production car by a 'proper manufacturer' (i.e. one producing more than a handful of cars a year)

Excellent post Jonby.

[Ed50]

Mikey,

Pleased you've got your car back and in what sounds like an awesome form……………….,it appears a monster has been created .

Now I'm sure there's a lot of interest in Johnny and his continued evolution so the question now begs to be asked…………...????????

Will he be on display at Burghley for all us mere mortals running stock to marvel at…….

Hopefully BR will have a nice selection on show as Bloefeld is on parade and Ben's bringing Jessica and keep an ear out for Pearl……..

[mikey k]

Ed50 said:

Mikey,

Pleased you've got your car back and in what sounds like an awesome form……………….,it appears a monster has been created .

Now I'm sure there's a lot of interest in Johnny and his continued evolution so the question now begs to be asked…………...????????

Will he be on display at Burghley for all us mere mortals running stock to marvel at…….

Hopefully BR will have a nice selection on show as Bloefeld is on parade and Ben's bringing Jessica and keep an ear out for Pearl……..

Points for persistence
TBH to look at there is very very little to see (unless we xray the engine and gearbox )
I'd rather people saw/heard him in action

[Ed50]

I know,I know its getting boring now but people can't say I didn't try………


,I know……….. you needn't park up, you could just claw up and down Barnack Road all day…………..

That way everyone could see and hear Johnny monstering up and down…….

[AndyBrew]

Car sounds awesome Mikey loved reading your write up, good stuff!

[jonby]

yeti said:

jonby said:

Not sure the first point about 'refusing to sign off for production' is entirely fair. I'm sure a quick google search will confirm the specifics, but basically the prototype was running with some race car related mechanics - IIRC elements of the engine, cooling systems, etc that simply were never feasible from a practicality, reliability or legal perspective in a production road car.

I assume your latter point is referring to the race cars being strangled by FIA regs ?

Don't get me wrong - I have no doubt that if this block was being used in a current car by Porsche or Ferrari, it would be developed to produce significantly more power. There is no question in my mind that outputs are partially restricted by lack AML's of £s. But at the same time, we have to accept some elements of what say BR do could never be realistically done in a road legal production car by a 'proper manufacturer' (i.e. one producing more than a handful of cars a year)

Excellent post Jonby.

why thank you sir !

[mikey k]

All cleaned up ready for his next adventure
Tucked up next to Jaffa

image by mikey k V8VR, on Flickr

image by mikey k V8VR, on Flickr

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 3rd July 22:00

[Grant3]

Mikey your beast looks stunning, great to see it has arrived home complete with that awesome new super-bike baiting engine.

I assume you have been too busy driving it to post since Thursday, so time for another driving report a few more days in, looking forward to hearing the latest.