Johnny 550 is Coming!

Johnny 550 is Coming!

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CarbonV12V

1,155 posts

183 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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robgt said:
L0TT0 said:
robgt said:
L0TT0 said:
I always remember being told many years ago of a quote from someone who 'knew' that "there is no substitution for cc's".
Sorry Tony, there is,smile It's called a turbo! AM's new engine will be 4ltr twin turbo circa 500BHP
You will get blown away by one then Rob (see what I did there)

I assume you already have one on order then Rob and the necessary upgrades to engine and clutch are already ordered too smile
Might have!! Not telling! Anyway if the new model is fitted with an AMG engine, clutch and gearbox it will not require upgrading! Sorry! wink
Besides the V12V in the garage I have a SL63 AMG which is about to have the DMS remap (see this month's Evo) which should see around 700bhp & 700ft/lbs from a 5.5l V8 TT. Will be interesting to see if the V12V still gets used!!

mikey k

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13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Bit of an update

Did a trip in it earlier in the month across France.
It was set up with newer versions of the BR headers (more torque), large area 200 cel cats (less pressure drop) and a 4.3 rear box (to tone the noise down a bit). Base tune and no twin throttles yet.
It's a real Jekyll and Hyde.
Sport button off, roof up it is a really quiet hyper speed GT. We did 950 miles in one day no issues.
Drop the roof and hit the sport button it is ballistic! It just pulls right up to the extended 7.6k rpm redline (might be possible to up that a bit) so it is very difficult to "be in the wrong gear"
The combination of the reworked gearbox (a lot smoother and quieter) and lightened flywheel/clutch package make the paddle shifts MUCH smoother both up and down. It even makes using D viable smile (only in Sport though!) The pops and bangs on down shifts are intoxicating and actually encourages you to change gear more. wink
He's now back at Bamford Rose having some more tweaks on the engine internals before we move on to the twin throttles.
Also found the Michelin PSS's to be fantastic, more comfortable, less tyre noise, more wet AND dry grip than the RE050's Aston fit.
Now to try and find some wider lighter alloys that don't detract from the "style"

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 31st July 19:35

Brakke

490 posts

123 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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mikey k said:
Bit of an update

Did a trip in it earlier in the month across France.
It was set up with newer versions of the BR headers (more torque), large area 200 cel cats (less pressure drop) and a 4.3 rear box (to tone the noise down a bit). Base tune and no twin throttles yet.
It's a real Jekyll and Hyde.
Sport button off, roof up it is a really quiet hyper speed GT. We did 950 miles in one day no issues.
Drop the roof and hit the sport button it is ballistic! It just pulls right up to the extended 7.6k rpm redline (might be possible to up that a bit) so it is very difficult to "be in the wrong gear"
The combination of the reworked gearbox (a lot smoother and quieter) and lightened flywheel/clutch package make the paddle shifts MUCH smoother both up and down. It even makes using D viable smile (only in Sport though!) The pops and bangs on down shifts are intoxicating and actually encourages you to change gear more. wink
He's now back at Bamford Rose having some more tweaks on the engine internals before we move on to the twin throttles.
Also found the Michelin PSS's to be fantastic, more comfortable, less tyre noise, more wet AND dry grip than the RE050's Aston fit.
Now to try and find some wider lighter alloys that don't detract from the "style"

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 31st July 19:35
Curious to know.....how are you enjoying the 5.0 gt4 monster still?

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Not seen much of him last couple of months
Adrian is getting to the end of the next development stage
Looking forward getting him back shortly
Part of being the test car, but any improvement over the last configuration is going to be impressive!

Brakke

490 posts

123 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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hi Mikey,

thanks for the update. Out of curiousity, whats the last stage of development?
Still plan on implementing twin throttle bodies or at least an injection improvement, or more?
Curious to know as I've started to discuss engine conversions with Mike the past week and your view and experience is highly appreciated.

Keep us posted!

Brakke

roughrider

975 posts

186 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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mikey k said:
Bit of an update

Did a trip in it earlier in the month across France.
It was set up with newer versions of the BR headers (more torque), large area 200 cel cats (less pressure drop) and a 4.3 rear box (to tone the noise down a bit). Base tune and no twin throttles yet.
It's a real Jekyll and Hyde.
Sport button off, roof up it is a really quiet hyper speed GT. We did 950 miles in one day no issues.
Drop the roof and hit the sport button it is ballistic! It just pulls right up to the extended 7.6k rpm redline (might be possible to up that a bit) so it is very difficult to "be in the wrong gear"
The combination of the reworked gearbox (a lot smoother and quieter) and lightened flywheel/clutch package make the paddle shifts MUCH smoother both up and down. It even makes using D viable smile (only in Sport though!) The pops and bangs on down shifts are intoxicating and actually encourages you to change gear more. wink
He's now back at Bamford Rose having some more tweaks on the engine internals before we move on to the twin throttles.
Also found the Michelin PSS's to be fantastic, more comfortable, less tyre noise, more wet AND dry grip than the RE050's Aston fit.
Now to try and find some wider lighter alloys that don't detract from the "style"

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 31st July 19:35
Would V12V wheels fit straight on? Or even better, the lightweight V12VS wheels?

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Brakke - He's back with Mike & Adrian finishing off V1.2 of the engine. Making some engine mods that come from the Jag 5.0 evolution (which is related to the Aston block). Mechanical twin throttles proved not ideal at idle and low revs so they are working on electronic twin throttles. All part of being the guinea pig wink

Roughrider - as I understand it the V12 wheels can be made to fit, but I'm not a fan of them. I think I've found a set of lighter forged wheels which are wider on the back than the V12 ones




Brakke

490 posts

123 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Someone has to be the guinea pig!
Regarding the wheels: im investigating the options of reducing the unsprung weight of the wheels (to offset the increase of a big brake kit).
Have you had the big brake kit installed as well? iF so, is going down to 18 inch an option? EDIT: i think i know those wheels....

Edited by Brakke on Saturday 18th October 20:28

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Johnny is one of the later cars with the factory bigger brake kit and floating front discs so I've not bothered with an upgrade in brakes or going down in wheels size
I definitely won't be going up in wheel size wink

TTramp

1 posts

113 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Hey Mikey, Those wheels look awesome! Can you share?
Manufacturer / Model.
Sizes and offsets.
Tires mounted.
Any rubbing or bottoming issues?
Thanks :-)

Edited by TTramp on Thursday 13th November 15:04

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Mikey......why not just put in a 5.0 litre jag engine..?.....are they not the same engine in essences?
I stand by to be corrected.....

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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tonyhall38 said:
Mikey......why not just put in a 5.0 litre jag engine..?.....are they not the same engine in essences?
I stand by to be corrected.....
The 5.0GT4 block is actually similar
Top end is very different and of course the jag engine is not dry sumped
I guess in theory it is possible but I'm not knowledgeable enough to even contemplate getting the electronics to work!

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Mikey, you really should change the name of this thread....not coming is it....in fact it's come...gone back, ....still back.....it must be frustrating having a great car , trying to make it better for it to sit in someone else's garage.....

Edited by tonyhall38 on Thursday 13th November 17:53

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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tonyhall38 said:
Mikey, you really should change the name of this thread....not coming is it....in fact it's come...gone back, ....still back.....it must be frustrating having a great car , trying to make it better for it to sit in someone else's garage.....

Edited by tonyhall38 on Thursday 13th November 17:53
Play nice Tony wink
Johnny was always a test car for this conversion I knew that and I'm comfortable
V2 of the block is being built up as we type.

NormanD

3,208 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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tonyhall38 said:
Mikey......why not just put in a 5.0 litre jag engine..?.....are they not the same engine in essences?
I stand by to be corrected.....
The Jag 5Lt is a totally differant engine

I've been trying to fit one to my XKR, even the block to bell housing is differant

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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mikey k said:
tonyhall38 said:
Mikey, you really should change the name of this thread....not coming is it....in fact it's come...gone back, ....still back.....it must be frustrating having a great car , trying to make it better for it to sit in someone else's garage.....

Edited by tonyhall38 on Thursday 13th November 17:53
Play nice Tony wink
Johnny was always a test car for this conversion I knew that and I'm comfortable
V2 of the block is being built up as we type.
I always play nice......but after conversations with other parties just can't help but feel a little concerned for you....and I do not know the full story , but will you have problems should you decide to sell?.... And be on the end of unpleasant messages etc...