Fuse 22 remote switch fitted.

Fuse 22 remote switch fitted.

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triple5

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751 posts

146 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Fitted my remote switch today, using the Logisys RM02, £12 from ebay. I know that most say just leave the fuse out, but I like little projects like this smile
An alternative method is to hardwire a switch, but that will involve running wires which is not a big deal, but this method is very easy to install.

I had originally planned to wire it so that the default at start-up was valves operational, you would need an NC relay and a bit of extra wiring to do that, as the remote output switches back to zero volts when the IGN is switched off. However, after running with no fuse for a while, I’ve decided to go the more conventional route of default off, I can then switch the valves back on for stealth mode or just to exercise them occasionally.

You need the RM02 switch which comes with two remotes, and a full size fuse add-a-circuit. This goes into the fuse box in the boot. I’ve put a 15A fuse in there for now, which replaces the original 20A fuse 22 on my 2010 V8V.


The unit with all the wiring complete, the Black wires go to a suitable earth point, I used one of the fuse box mounting bolts. Don’t worry I placed it very carefully on the bonnet for the photo whistle



Add-a-circuit in place, the White wire (return power) goes into the lower right hand fuse slot on the add-a-circuit. You will need to trim a standard male crimp connector to fit.



Wiring run to the rear of the fuse box, I cut a small slot in the lid to allow it to be refitted. The remote unit is tucked up behind the carpet trim.



The remote neatly slots into the arm rest, job done.


Robbontherock

55 posts

145 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Nice, thanks for sharing.

Cheers
AndyR

MaverickV12

1,084 posts

139 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Triple5, love the idea and the write up is bril. Is there a kit that does this, for us people that are not electrically minded it looks complicated. If there was a plug and play kit, that would be bril. When I'm driving around the city, I like to hear the exhaust etc, when its a long journey, you (I) couldn't stand the noise of a howling exhaust hour after hour.

Is there some sort of kit? smile

drofnavi

477 posts

140 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Thank you triple5 for the excellent write up.
As I have said before this forum needs far more good technical stuff like this.

jonby

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158 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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drofnavi said:
Thank you triple5 for the excellent write up.
As I have said before this forum needs far more good technical stuff like this.
what he said ! :-)

MaverickV12

1,084 posts

139 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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drofnavi said:
Thank you triple5 for the excellent write up.
As I have said before this forum needs far more good technical stuff like this.
What he said X 2 smile

triple5

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751 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Thanks all smile

Maverick, it's very easy, all the parts are from ebay, my remote unit shipped from the USA without any problems. Just attach the Red/White and ground wires as above and that's it. The hardest part is cutting the slot in the lid of the fuse box.

I've attached a wiring diagram to help, although note in this picture the White wire is just pushed into the add-a-circuit for the pic. Blue wire is the antenna.
Allan


B1 ECC

388 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Paralight do a remote kit, I have one on my car which James supplied and I fitted, does exactly what it says on the tin!
I have no connection with Paralight just a satisfied customer.

Beoon

185 posts

138 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Thanks for the excellent write up, very interesting mod.
Is the fuse box shown in the photos from a V8 Vantage Roadster?
I have a V8VR and am interested in doing this mod.
Sorry for my ignorance but is my interpretation of your mod as follows correct?
When the car is started the remote switch is "open" ie equivalent to the fuse 22 out, this is the standard modification setup and when the remote control is blipped the remote switch goes to a closed state ie fuse in.
So standard setup is always equivalent of the fuse out.
The remote switch units only seem to be available as shipped from the USA on eBay?

Is the other option you mention on your write up much more complicated to wire?
This would be my preferred option
Ie standard setup is equivalent of the fuse in and the remote control switch is only used to launch theV8 "symphony" when required
Cheers
Alan

Beoon

185 posts

138 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Allan,
Looks like you were posting the wiring diagram as I was typing the above post
Cheers
Alan

triple5

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751 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Beoon said:
Thanks for the excellent write up, very interesting mod.
Is the fuse box shown in the photos from a V8 Vantage Roadster?
I have a V8VR and am interested in doing this mod.
Sorry for my ignorance but is my interpretation of your mod as follows correct?
When the car is started the remote switch is "open" ie equivalent to the fuse 22 out, this is the standard modification setup and when the remote control is blipped the remote switch goes to a closed state ie fuse in.
So standard setup is always equivalent of the fuse out.
The remote switch units only seem to be available as shipped from the USA on eBay?

Is the other option you mention on your write up much more complicated to wire?
This would be my preferred option
Ie standard setup is equivalent of the fuse in and the remote control switch is only used to launch theV8 "symphony" when required
Cheers
Alan
Hi Alan,
Mine is a V8V coupe, I don’t know if the Roadster box looks the same. I've only seen this kit in the USA, it does appear to be well made and the remotes do not look cheap like some.
Yes your interpretation is correct, default with the above is valves inoperable or “fuse out”. A lot of Corvette owners in the USA use this kit and they all use it the same way, in fact I couldn’t find anybody who has wired it the other way round.

I’ve drawn up a circuit which should work, although I must add I’ve not actually tried it, I would check it out with a meter before plugging it into the car. You will need a 5 pin relay also called a changeover relay, and use the NC contacts pins 30 and 87A. You will also need a second in-line fuse holder for the power to the relay.

When you start-up the circuit is still made or equivalent to “fuse in”, so the valves will operate normally, when you press ON, the switch will provide power via the White wire which will energise the coil and break the circuit, valves will be off.



J12MOC

802 posts

145 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Great idea Alan...ordered my kit yesterday of eBay . I spent ages trying to find an easy route from the boot to the cabin for a wired switch on my roadster. This is much more elegantbeer

Beoon

185 posts

138 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Hi Allan,
Thanks very much for the revised wiring diagram, the reason I asked for the standard "stealth" setup is that I leave for work at 5:30AM.
Many thanks
Alan

steveatesh

4,900 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Excellent write up and idea Allan , may give it a go one day after I've fully recovered from fitting the dash cam! Steve.

MaverickV12

1,084 posts

139 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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steveatesh said:
fitting the dash cam!
Not wishing to derail the thread, but ..... eek

Is your dash cam the same as a GoPro? smile

triple5

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751 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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steveatesh said:
Excellent write up and idea Allan , may give it a go one day after I've fully recovered from fitting the dash cam! Steve.
Talking of which........got it sussed yet?

Jon39

12,845 posts

144 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Thank you Allan for posting. It is certainly a very neat way of controlling the valves.

I was just puzzled by your use of a 15 amp fuse, in place of the original 20 amp.

Was it simply that you had removed the original some time ago, and only had a 15 amp available to use?

A minor point, but I just wondered if there was an electrical reason for using the 15A.

triple5

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751 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Jon39 said:
Thank you Allan for posting. It is certainly a very neat way of controlling the valves.

I was just puzzled by your use of a 15 amp fuse, in place of the original 20 amp.

Was it simply that you had removed the original some time ago, and only had a 15 amp available to use?

A minor point, but I just wondered if there was an electrical reason for using the 15A.
Thanks Jon.

The RM02 is rated at 15A (switching current), so no point in fitting a higher rated fuse. If the fuse blows then that means the RM02 is not up to job, I don't expect that to happen.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

177 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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triple5 said:
Thanks Jon.

The RM02 is rated at 15A (switching current), so no point in fitting a higher rated fuse. If the fuse blows then that means the RM02 is not up to job, I don't expect that to happen.
You only need one 15A fuse...just move it to the other side of the node. As you have drawn it, you could draw a total of 30A from the circuit; not advisable when the original circuit is fused for 20A.

triple5

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146 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
You only need one 15A fuse...just move it to the other side of the node. As you have drawn it, you could draw a total of 30A from the circuit; not advisable when the original circuit is fused for 20A.
Not sure I agree as the RM02 will effectively be unfused.
However, it has made me take another look and would suggest lowering the fuse rating for the RM02. In this configuration the RM02 will not be drawing hardly any current as the relay will be doing all the work. I’ll update the drawing later, thanks.