Tyre sensor replacement

Tyre sensor replacement

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steveatesh

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4,900 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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As is the way of things a month after my warranty expired my TPMS is indicating a fault on the front near side tyre pressure sensor.

Am I right in thinking the sensor operates on a battery and that once one goes we can expect the rest to go too? I am asking because I don't know whether to get it done now or wait in case the rest follow and get them all done together?

Also, any idea on how much it is to have one or more replaced?

Vantage MY 2010.

drofnavi

477 posts

140 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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It would be very interesting to dismantle a duff sensor and see if the battery can't be changed.

I had the same issue with a Chrysler, after about 6 years the first one went off, I changed all of them as a precaution, refurbished the wheels, new tyres etc all at the same time.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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steveatesh said:
Also, any idea on how much it is to have one or more replaced?

Vantage MY 2010.
Steve.....do you have a good relationship with your Dealer ?? smile

steveatesh

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4,900 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Jockman said:
Steve.....do you have a good relationship with your Dealer ?? smile
Lol, yes I have an approximate which included £130 per hour plus vat to just diagnose plus labour to fit, , plus parts about £200 per sensor. Hoping somebody might have had one done at an Indy I can consider.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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steveatesh said:
Have up to now, why you ask?
Well, Steve me old china.......my warranty expired last March......in June I noticed the corrosion on my wing mirrors......so my Dealer fought my corner and managed to get me 2 new ones.....under warranty yes

I appreciate Corrosion and TPMS are different animals but it really all boils down to the expected 'reasonable' life of a part.

Just saying smile

DangerMonkey

587 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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steveatesh said:
Lol, yes I have an approximate which included £130 per hour plus vat to just diagnose plus labour to fit, , plus parts about £200 per sensor. Hoping somebody might have had one done at an Indy I can consider.
£200 a sensor? crikey

think this is what you need? £100 a corner plus can't be a difficult job

http://astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantage/par...

in fact even rrp suggested as £132 a corner. unless somebody would like to correct me I'd suggest a dealer/indy isn't particularly necessary for a job like this. Surely it's just tyre on/off etc or is that too simple a view?



Edited by DangerMonkey on Wednesday 20th March 22:21

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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DangerMonkey said:
£200 a sensor? crikey

think this is what you need? £100 a corner plus can't be a difficult job

http://astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantage/par...

in fact even rrp suggested as £132 a corner. unless somebody would like to correct me I'd suggest a dealer/indy isn't particularly necessary for a job like this. Surely it's just tyre on/off etc or is that too simple a view?
I think they have to be programmed in some way..?

When BR did mine it was around 110 a corner I think. Wished I'd had a 3 wheeler rolleyes

steveatesh

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4,900 posts

165 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Right thanks for all that everybody and the link, that seems much more reasonable. I'll check locally if anybody can fit one and take it from there.

Thanks for the suggestion Jock about reasonable life, dealer didn't suggest it but you are right, I should have asked. Doh!

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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No probs Steve - may not even apply in your case.

It's whenever I hear those words...'warranty just run out'.....when sometimes it hasn't wink

The very same Dealer returned my car yesterday after 4th year service and mot.....minus my snag list.

The rust wiper nut - repaired foc.

The fuel filler cap release mechanism - fixed foc.

The water ingress into the boot from underneath - resealed foc.

The stone-chipped grilles underneath the front bumper - repainted foc.

As I say, a healthy relationship with your Dealer 'can' work in your favour smile

pilgrim7777

282 posts

189 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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TPMS systems vary depending on the manufacturer. Batteries usually last around six years if you are replacing them and buy them from non OEM sources make sure the transmission wave length is the correct one, as currently there are various wavelengths such as 315 MHZ, 433 MHZ. They also will need to be "excited"or tuned in to the receptor. I don't know the wavelength for the current versions on Aston Martins, I believe there was change in types of receptor in the later models.

Edited by pilgrim7777 on Thursday 21st March 07:43

tonyarmitstead

40 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Replacing the sensors is very easy - you just need the right 'star driver' bit - the sensor mounts on the base of the valve. I took mine to a local tyre place I trusted and they did the tyre removal/re-fit. Make sure you note the serial number of each sensor along with which wheel it is fitted to.

They do then need to be coded to the sensor ECU - you will need a dealer to do this (or a suitably equipped independent). Let then know the serial numbers and which wheels they are on (this just saves them having to let the system discover them).

The guts of the electronics on the sensor is sealed in epoxy so there are no easily replaceable batteries. I still have my old ones - might try to get into one to see whats inside!

Regards Tony

DangerMonkey

587 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Your're quite right, just been looking at my workshop manual, seems a specific bit of equipment is needed for the reprogramming

Retman

848 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Jockman said:
No probs Steve - may not even apply in your case.

It's whenever I hear those words...'warranty just run out'.....when sometimes it hasn't wink

The very same Dealer returned my car yesterday after 4th year service and mot.....minus my snag list.

The rust wiper nut - repaired foc.

The fuel filler cap release mechanism - fixed foc.

The water ingress into the boot from underneath - resealed foc.

The stone-chipped grilles underneath the front bumper - repainted foc.

As I say, a healthy relationship with your Dealer 'can' work in your favour smile
Think it's known as referral commission. I'll be checking my bill for any Jockman surcharge yes

Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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pilgrim7777 said:
TPMS systems vary depending on the manufacturer. Batteries usually last around six years if you are replacing them and buy them from non OEM sources make sure the transmission wave length is the correct one, as currently there are various wavelengths such as 315 MHZ, 433 MHZ. They also will need to be "excited"or tuned in to the receptor. I don't know the wavelength for the current versions on Aston Martins, I believe there was change in types of receptor in the later models.

Edited by pilgrim7777 on Thursday 21st March 07:43
Terry, any chance you could do a drawing of that for me whistlehehe

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Retman said:
Think it's known as referral commission. I'll be checking my bill for any Jockman surcharge yes
You won't be going to Leeds on Saturday if you've seen the forecast Andrew wink

pilgrim7777

282 posts

189 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Cockernee said:
Terry, any chance you could do a drawing of that for me whistlehehe
Oh dear...I haven't got a workshop manual to copy.....
So if you mean the wavelength then that's a wiggly line....
the receptor is a box shaped object...
otherwise you might think I was bit of a nutter or a maverick.....

DAMIT

341 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Frankly, I have found ALL TPMS a real pain! Constantly giving false warnings, especially in cold weather. So when the system started its error reading, meaning it was not picking up anything from the tyre monitors, I simply unplugged the unit and cross wired it to clear the dash display.

As I have been driving for over 40 years without a TPMS don't think they are worth the effort or cost of replacement.


ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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^ I have to agree with you; its on my car and working but I'm not convinced I'd spend a great deal of money fixing it if it broke and if I were spec'ing a new car and it was a chargeable extra I'd be forgetting it.

Retman

848 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Jockman said:
You won't be going to Leeds on Saturday if you've seen the forecast Andrew wink
I could start talking about chains now but I like to keep that sort of thing private.biggrin

JohnG1

3,472 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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DAMIT said:
Frankly, I have found ALL TPMS a real pain! Constantly giving false warnings, especially in cold weather. So when the system started its error reading, meaning it was not picking up anything from the tyre monitors, I simply unplugged the unit and cross wired it to clear the dash display.

As I have been driving for over 40 years without a TPMS don't think they are worth the effort or cost of replacement.
Each to his/her own. But of the 40 years of driving how much was in cars with very low profile tyres that have super tough sidewalls?

I had a puncture in my 911 and did not feel a thing. Only realised when I parked and could see the tyre was hot...

In my V12V I saw TPMS warning and pulled off the motorway to see a screw in a tyre. I've only had TMPS warnings when I've had a puncture or a new tyre and the system seems to "recalibrate".

Maybe your TPMS system is not correctly set up?